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Title: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: Pinchop73 on May 22, 2013, 07:12:27 PM PokerStars Hand #97698114452: Tournament #802010534, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (6000/12000) - 2013/04/25 21:09:10 ET
Table '802010534 46' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 2: squintster (1389638 in chips) Seat 3: LaliTournier (1180258 in chips) Seat 4: toto2609 (134040 in chips) Seat 5: "CHIPPEN85" (446358 in chips) Seat 6: d.quang (594844 in chips) Seat 7: pithiki (795177 in chips) Seat 9: Ultraballs18 (406685 in chips) squintster: posts the ante 1200 LaliTournier: posts the ante 1200 toto2609: posts the ante 1200 "CHIPPEN85": posts the ante 1200 d.quang: posts the ante 1200 pithiki: posts the ante 1200 Ultraballs18: posts the ante 1200 Ultraballs18: posts small blind 6000 squintster: posts big blind 12000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [9c 9h] LaliTournier: folds toto2609: calls 12000 "CHIPPEN85": folds d.quang: folds pithiki: folds Ultraballs18: raises 24000 to 36000 squintster: raises 32225 to 68225 toto2609: folds Ultraballs18: ? Had zero history with Villain pre the FT, but a quick search when it started showed that he's a HS'ish reg living in Mexicowh. For ICM's sakes, payouts were: 6233 4567 3364 2539 1781 1401 1071 What you sayin'? Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: TL900 on May 22, 2013, 07:18:07 PM jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide.
edit : I would just complete pre too, just realised were in the sb so I dont really wana play 9s in a bloated pot OOP Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: Pinchop73 on May 22, 2013, 07:29:12 PM Forgot to mention, I would say I felt I was significantly better than 3 of the remaining players. How much weight on my decision should this information have?
Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: MC on May 22, 2013, 08:29:43 PM Sigh jam I guess. Feels kinda close though. On the other hand I can't imagine me folding tens.
Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: wazz on May 22, 2013, 09:01:32 PM It's pretty close, I guess I would fold but a jam can't be too bad; wouldn't jam 88 and would happily jam TT.
Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: SubZERO on May 22, 2013, 09:46:15 PM +1 to complete pre. a limp utg with 10bb would be setting alarm bells off immediately unless he has been doing a fair bit of this sort of stuff but its not mentioned in the OP
as played I guess I sigh fold, agree with TT+ AQs+ Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: theprawnidentity on May 22, 2013, 10:10:13 PM jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide. I was just typing this out till I realised that we're 3x'ing into a 10bb stack AND its gonna cost us nearly 30% of our stack to run him. Not only that, he's limped a 10bb stack early position and we've raised to isolate, its not like were not going to have a hand here. I thought this was a fist pump shove but on inspection I'm also in the 'its close' camp. Having said that, I know I dont fold in game. Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: mulhuzz on May 23, 2013, 12:25:30 AM All hinges on whether limper has been limping a lot for me.
Probably just going '9 and a 9, lets spin' if he's limped more than once (and that's the reason we isod) I'm the absence of that I think I'm probably gonna fold bit would happily jam TT as well, Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: Pinchop73 on May 23, 2013, 12:36:06 AM Limper confirmed dolt, hence trying to gii with him.
Obviously though, if I know this, Shaun Quinn aka squinster certainly will too, hence the coffin spot. I just wasn't sure at the time if risking getting into a flip at best with three perceived weaker players remaining was the 'correct' option to take. A point flushy made in Camels thread made me want to post this to see what the lads thought I should do. Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: TL900 on May 23, 2013, 12:40:47 AM jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide. I was just typing this out till I realised that we're 3x'ing into a 10bb stack AND its gonna cost us nearly 30% of our stack to run him. Not only that, he's limped a 10bb stack early position and we've raised to isolate, its not like were not going to have a hand here. I thought this was a fist pump shove but on inspection I'm also in the 'its close' camp. Having said that, I know I dont fold in game. didn't even realise the limper had 10bb. Seems like a fold now all things considered. Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: wazz on May 23, 2013, 02:22:24 AM If limper has been limping lots we have to raise but we're still expecting action from him a decent amount, bb should know that and is raising us anyway
Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: pleno1 on May 23, 2013, 02:31:25 AM Fold because we have to have a strong hand to want to rcall va the limper
Title: Re: Stars $22 cubed Final Table - ICM headache spot Post by: outragous76 on May 23, 2013, 11:11:46 PM in game I fist pump rip it in, then wonder whether it was an ICM error after I lose!
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