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Title: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 08:10:09 PM
Hi, just wondering if anyone knows any good (cheap) poker coaches, I want to get better and learning from experience is taking too long. I've been playing seriously for 9 months now, I play low stakes MTT's; is this the right thing for me to do to get better? Advice would be appreciated, thanks.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: George2Loose on May 29, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
Marc wright is doing 1-2-1 coaching for a reasonable rate. Railtard1 on here


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 08:13:26 PM
Marc wright is doing 1-2-1 coaching for a reasonable rate. Railtard1 on here

Thanks, do you know how it works exactly?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: George2Loose on May 29, 2013, 08:15:29 PM
Could work a number of ways I spose. Most usual is a hand history review where u send him a hand history and he reviews it with via Skype


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: pleno1 on May 29, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
tom langley imo.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 09:06:46 PM
tom langley imo.

Got a email address or username please?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 29, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
jason herbert imo


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: LonOhRay on May 29, 2013, 09:17:22 PM
John Black


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: George2Loose on May 29, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
<<<<<<<<guy in my pic isn't too bad at pokers


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
How do I contact these guys??


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 29, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
do you live near scunny?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Marky147 on May 29, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
(http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bat_signal.jpg)


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Marky147 on May 29, 2013, 09:38:12 PM
How do I contact these guys??

Once you have 10 posts you will be able to PM other members, so it will be easy enough to make contact then.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: NoCardDSC on May 29, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
John Black

 ;kev;


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 10:03:48 PM
post 8


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
post 9


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 10:04:37 PM
post 10


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: EchoEllis on May 29, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
How do I contact these guys??

Once you have 10 posts you will be able to PM other members, so it will be easy enough to make contact then.

Ok now how do I contact these guys?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: George2Loose on May 29, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
Need 100 to view PMs


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 29, 2013, 10:14:49 PM
10% pls


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: theprawnidentity on May 29, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
10% pls

Ill take the same as long as its one bullet in a $10k for a high mark up.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 29, 2013, 10:31:04 PM
10% pls

Ill take the same as long as its one bullet in a $10k for a high mark up.

one drop met


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: The Camel on May 29, 2013, 10:35:38 PM
Need 100 to view PMs

A+


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 11:14:42 PM
Need 100 to view PMs

Late contender for post of the day.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: jgcblack on May 30, 2013, 12:23:53 AM
How do I contact these guys??

Once you have 10 posts you will be able to PM other members, so it will be easy enough to make contact then.

Ok now how do I contact these guys?

TL900 is Tom Langley, message him and he will be able to give you advice at the least.

welcome to blonde.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: wazz on June 02, 2013, 04:52:28 AM
Do your homework before paying for coaches, some are less reliable than others. Marc Wright / railtard comes with a pretty iffy reputation, for example.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: jgcblack on June 02, 2013, 12:00:39 PM
Do your homework before paying for coaches, some are less reliable than others. Marc Wright / railtard comes with a pretty iffy reputation, for example.

thats pretty harsh.

ive heard about Marc's past with money... clearly he's made some mistakes.  But coaching wise ive only heard good things.

even if you just sweated him, recorded it and had him voice his reasoning and ideas as he did it, youd probably learn chunks.

vbol with the coaching, please post results, impressions on here...


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Tal on June 02, 2013, 12:10:23 PM
Do your homework before paying for coaches, some are less reliable than others. Marc Wright / railtard comes with a pretty iffy reputation, for example.

thats pretty harsh.

ive heard about Marc's past with money... clearly he's made some mistakes.  But coaching wise ive only heard good things.

even if you just sweated him, recorded it and had him voice his reasoning and ideas as he did it, youd probably learn chunks.

vbol with the coaching, please post results, impressions on here...

Yeah, I haven't heard anything iffy about his coaching reputation, either.

By all means, OP, shop around, do your research and pick what works for you.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 02, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Do your homework before paying for coaches, some are less reliable than others. Marc Wright / railtard comes with a pretty iffy reputation, for example.

thats pretty harsh.

ive heard about Marc's past with money... clearly he's made some mistakes.  But coaching wise ive only heard good things.

even if you just sweated him, recorded it and had him voice his reasoning and ideas as he did it, youd probably learn chunks.

vbol with the coaching, please post results, impressions on here...

it's not harsh.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: wazz on June 02, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
I wasn't saying anything about his coaching or playing abilities. You've got to be able to trust your coach, especially if you're sending him $ upfront. I'm pretty amazed at how willing people are to forgive outright scammers in the poker community.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: DaveShoelace on June 02, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
I don't personally want to wade in on the Marc debate but its not harsh at all to mention that. If people are vouching for someone for what is essentially a business transaction they should also give full disclosure on any causes for concern.

Not talking about Marc specifically here, just poker in general.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Tal on June 02, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
I don't personally want to wade in on the Marc debate but its not harsh at all to mention that. If people are vouching for someone for what is essentially a business transaction they should also give full disclosure on any causes for concern.

Not talking about Marc specifically here, just poker in general.

You shouldn't go into anything with your eyes closed, especially when you're handing over money.

Some reputations have been heavily tarnished in the last year or so. Doesn't mean they won't do a good job. Doesn't mean their history shouldn't be borne in mind when deciding whether to employ their services.

I imagine googling a prospective coach's name would give you a fair bit of background.

OP was asking for advice. Seems like he has a range of it now.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Tal on June 02, 2013, 02:48:18 PM
@OP: In my experience, the best coaches (not just in a poker context) will teach you how you want/need to be taught. My best advice is to contact a few and get a feel for what you want out of it and what they each offer.

Coaching is a lot harder than teaching for the majority of people; it is a different skillset entirely. Choose wisely.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: tikay on June 02, 2013, 04:20:51 PM
I have room for a few more students.

Rates on application.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Da Bookie on June 02, 2013, 04:25:17 PM
Loving this thread :]


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Magic817 on June 02, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
I have room for a few more students.

Rates on application.

Can anyone vouch for you?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: treefella on June 03, 2013, 02:15:55 AM
Loving this thread :]
happy to give a few video razz lessons Mike before you head out to Sin City  ;kev;


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: JK on June 03, 2013, 02:17:09 AM
EchoEllis, incase you didnt get the information you wanted, basically this:

Railtard1 (Marc Wright) is a v v good coach from what I've heard. Hes also one of the top UK pro's. Marc has had some problems fairly recently (you can find the full thread on here).

TL900 (Tom Langley) is also an excellent player, who voices his thought processes very well. He has a video up for Pokerstrategy, if you're interested in asking Tom, I'd advise you find and watch this first, as it will give you more of an insight into him as a coach.

Stato_1 (Andrew Hulme) is absolutely tearing up the online scene atm. Personally have learnt an absolute ton from this absolute ton of a man. I have no idea if he wants to coach though.

As people have said, do a bit of research. There will be plenty of people online that are v good coaches, but the way they explain things may not suit you. Its all about how you learn best.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: railtard1 on June 03, 2013, 02:46:50 AM
EchoEllis, incase you didnt get the information you wanted, basically this:

Railtard1 (Marc Wright) is a v v good coach from what I've heard. Hes also one of the top UK pro's. Marc has had some problems fairly recently (you can find the full thread on here).

TL900 (Tom Langley) is also an excellent player, who voices his thought processes very well. He has a video up for Pokerstrategy, if you're interested in asking Tom, I'd advise you find and watch this first, as it will give you more of an insight into him as a coach.

Stato_1 (Andrew Hulme) is absolutely tearing up the online scene atm. Personally have learnt an absolute ton from this absolute ton of a man. I have no idea if he wants to coach though.

As people have said, do a bit of research. There will be plenty of people online that are v good coaches, but the way they explain things may not suit you. Its all about how you learn best.

Have done coaching on and off for maybe 2 years, have never had a single complaint / had someone that wasnt happy by the end of our partnership (or at least they havnt said so).
Yeh have a thread on blonde which was commented on recently, but the thread was about a dispute over a swapped % that was made in early 2012, so wasnt actually a recent issue, and also it has no bearing on my ability to coach anyone imo.
As for my "poker CV", i have won every comp with a buyin $22 or greater on pokerstars on there normal schedule (week days and weekends), including $100r 7 times, 320 6max 3 times, 265ko maybe 4 times and big 109 and big 162 3 or 4 times each. I have won 2 SCOOP events, finalled 2 WCOOP events, won the super tuesday and finalled it on an additional 5 occasions aswell. Live isnt as good tho but ive finalled an EPT from the 3 i have played and have chopped a GUKPT also. Think im maybe top 5 biggest winners in the UK in past 3 years online. I was number 1 on pocket fives in the UK toward the end of 2012.
As for the other 2 players mentioned, i think its really unfair for you to mention my thread on blonde, but not to mention tl900's thread on blonde, as his is more recent, and more relevant. I dont know much about toms game though, i know he is a small winner on stars, but have no idea of his stats and results elsewhere.
As for stato, he has broken into the top 10 in the UK now imo. Really clever, calculated mtt player who changes gears really well and doesnt level himself like some mtt players do, so definately think about him as an option if he is doing coaching now (dont know if he is, just saw someone mentioned him ITT).

Gl with whatever u decide, my advice would be against using online video's tho as they wont do anything specific for you. When looking for a coach you need to find someone who can help with your specific needs. Also make sure your time is used well, i.e make sure you prepare everything before the session starts as obtaining hand histories / loading to a replayer / downloading teamviewer are all things that can take up a decent amount of the time you are paying for.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: dreenie on June 03, 2013, 02:58:26 AM
I'm not Mark's biggest fan, but don't know how any of you can comment on him, and not Tom, nothing personal about any of these ppl btw, but his online staking thread did not end well and no one has mentioned it, yet attack attack railtard. At the end of the day, should be fair, not just sucking up to ppl who are your mates, or who you like better.

Both imo are great players, but if someone wants to derail about stuff that is not relevant on a'coaching' thread then at least name all players who have had complicated arrangements.

Scammer this Scammer that, it's just a joke tbh.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: dreenie on June 03, 2013, 03:03:24 AM
And fwiw there is a icon called google, so one only needs to type in the person's name and such threads would come up.

No one is 'vouching' for Mark, IMHO they are just saying he is a sicko player, which he is and that's it. No one puts a gun to anyone's head and say's you HAVE to get coaching off him or anybody for that matter.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: aaron1867 on June 03, 2013, 03:08:06 AM
Just because I like him and he will be a good rate, dan carter is also good. Definitely a better rep than some mentioned.

Shit at werewolf tho


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: TL900 on June 03, 2013, 03:17:25 AM
Marc ainec obv, guys a beast.

edit : As for mentioning threads, yeah I fucked up and I owe people money as does Marc and people are unfairly attacking him and not me. For numerous reasons I wouldnt want to get involved in anything like formal coaching until my rep has been restored/become less damaged. Nor do I think I am qualified enough to be a "paid 1on1 coach" (as in poker resume) AND I haven't done anything like that before and wouldn't know where to begin really, speak to Marc or Stato imo they will be much better than me in that department and are undoubtedly better players than I am.

I post alot of PHA both on other peoples hands and some of my own, I will happily discuss hands with anyone who will listen so you are more than welcome to post some hands to me and I will try and give my feedback on them.

gl, Tom


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: The Camel on June 03, 2013, 03:32:52 AM
@OP: In my experience, the best coaches (not just in a poker context) will teach you how you want/need to be taught. My best advice is to contact a few and get a feel for what you want out of it and what they each offer.

Coaching is a lot harder than teaching for the majority of people; it is a different skillset entirely. Choose wisely.

In the days I used to be good at hu sngs someone offered me $500 per hour to coach them.

I could hardly turn that down, but after 3 or 4 sessions it just became patently obvious I am a terrible teacher.

I just couldn't put into words concepts that seemed obvious to me.

Coaching is v v tough.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: aaron1867 on June 03, 2013, 03:55:13 AM
Are you serious Tom? People have made valid points to a NEW member of the forum. We have a right to help people in the same village to let them know of certain people's inadequacies.

If people ask you for recommendation of a curry house I'm sure you'd tell them the truth etc etc.

You can't ignore the truth


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: pleno1 on June 03, 2013, 03:56:57 AM
I love it! Find it very fun, I do a weekly seminar which is free and has over 1000 every week tuning in the. Some of the videos have had 10,000 views.

It's all about motivation if you do it just for the money then it's just a grind and you will coach poorly.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: JK on June 03, 2013, 04:02:46 AM
PM'd you Marc


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: TL900 on June 03, 2013, 04:07:29 AM
Are you serious Tom? People have made valid points to a NEW member of the forum. We have a right to help people in the same village to let them know of certain people's inadequacies.

If people ask you for recommendation of a curry house I'm sure you'd tell them the truth etc etc.

You can't ignore the truth

huh? I dont get it, I haven't said anyone shouldnt say anything or whatever you're implying?


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: tikay on June 03, 2013, 07:22:55 AM
@OP: In my experience, the best coaches (not just in a poker context) will teach you how you want/need to be taught. My best advice is to contact a few and get a feel for what you want out of it and what they each offer.

Coaching is a lot harder than teaching for the majority of people; it is a different skillset entirely. Choose wisely.

In the days I used to be good at hu sngs someone offered me $500 per hour to coach them.

I could hardly turn that down, but after 3 or 4 sessions it just became patently obvious I am a terrible teacher.

I just couldn't put into words concepts that seemed obvious to me.

Coaching is v v tough.

I don't believe, not for a second, that being a good player necessarily makes someone a good coach.

I do believe that many players of lesser ability can in fact make excellent coaches.

A look at Managers & ex-Managers in the Premier League (football) is adequate proof of this, I'd suggest.   

The chaps mentioned in this thread as being really good players might make well be good coaches, I have no idea, but it does not automatically follow.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 04, 2013, 12:43:35 PM
I don't believe, not for a second, that being a good player necessarily makes someone a good coach.

I do believe that many players of lesser ability can in fact make excellent coaches.

A look at Managers & ex-Managers in the Premier League (football) is adequate proof of this, I'd suggest.   

The chaps mentioned in this thread as being really good players might make well be good coaches, I have no idea, but it does not automatically follow.

Couldn't agree more Teacake, was gonna say the same thing.

The other thing is personalities make a big point as well, I've done some coaching and found it's been brilliant with some people and terrible with others, you defo need to Gel as a partnership like Marc says, if you respect the person's play + enjoy the way he teaches (as well as actually liking him as a person) then you'll find it really beneficial - however dislike one of those things and you wont get much and will be burning money pretty much.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Karabiner on June 04, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
Nik Hicks took the DTD coach to Wembley this week.

Small sample size I know but impressive result nevertheless.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Yian on June 05, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
Nik Hicks took the DTD coach to Wembley this week.

Small sample size I know but impressive result nevertheless.

Jeez he mist the bus back. How on earth is he gonna be able to get back to Nottingham?????

By making himself one of these I guess...

(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/marsevis/marsevis0901/marsevis090100020/4239752-the-car-and-the-house-made-of-euro--isolated-on-a-white-background.jpg)


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Yian on June 05, 2013, 05:49:21 PM
Probably get there faster though on one of these...

(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/nito500/nito5001102/nito500110200147/8755562-paper-plane-made-with-a-100-euro-bill.jpg)


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: Tal on June 05, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
Nah, he's won enough to be able to have his destination moved to where he is.

Travelling to places is for the plebs.


Title: Re: Poker Coaches?
Post by: lucky_scrote on June 05, 2013, 06:25:32 PM
I currently only have one student. I was planning on taking a few on but I figured quickly that I'd enjoy it less. It's not just for the money but I love helping people with the game. I also can't take too many people on atm since I've got a staking deal on here that takes up a lot of my time.

If the OP hasn't found a coach yet then feel free to pm me.