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PokerStars Hand #99484653370: Tournament #807010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (5000/10000) - 2013/06/02 23:20:31 WET [2013/06/02 18:20:31 ET]
Table '807010003 258' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: BezzzzPaleva (439428 in chips)
Seat 2: babaandi (109624 in chips)
Seat 3: pangolin2012 (256598 in chips)
Seat 4: hemann1 (192888 in chips)
Seat 5: Bullermis (406827 in chips)
Seat 6: Valouas (136316 in chips)
Seat 7: Chapeco (104773 in chips)
Seat 8: GHolden7 (391373 in chips)
Seat 9: maclaut969 (319955 in chips)
BezzzzPaleva: posts the ante 1000
babaandi: posts the ante 1000
pangolin2012: posts the ante 1000
hemann1: posts the ante 1000
Bullermis: posts the ante 1000
Valouas: posts the ante 1000
Chapeco: posts the ante 1000
GHolden7: posts the ante 1000
maclaut969: posts the ante 1000
Valouas: posts small blind 5000
Chapeco: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GHolden7 [Qs As]
GHolden7: raises 12000 to 22000
maclaut969: folds
BezzzzPaleva: folds
babaandi: folds
pangolin2012: raises 26000 to 48000
hemann1: folds
Bullermis: folds
Valouas: folds
Chapeco: folds
GHolden7:

Villain= 24/19/10 over 35
I'd raised the exact same amount the previous hand and got a walk
WWYD?

[ ] Deep
[X] Eye

Nailed it. Barring some relevant history I don't see myself doing anything but wagering all of the betting discs. Stack sizes are perfect

fold ainec

this its a 3bet vs utg deep in a tournament where they will be looking ot ladder.

min 4 and watch him cry his little heart out

he has 25bbs and isnt folding jj or better o ak and isnt 3betting much worse for value and we would be crippled.

Villian is also 3betting with 2 stacks that have 10bb and 15bb behind them so range should be strong here! At worst they have 1010. So probably looking at a range of AQ+ and JJ+ our AQ doesn't play great vs this range. His stats don't suggest a fish so would assume he has looked at stacks behind him before 3 betting .

he has 25 bb and can easily 3b 77-99 and think wtf afterwards. And if he isn't folding JJ - errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so?

As for everything but AA, oh well we got 30%

See it all the time, but if im getting it in here (I would think I had a good grasp of villain by now), then im min 4 calling, not jamming

Who the fuck 3bets 77 pre here?!

lol! Just because you don't.........................................

I got 45bbs in vs 99 on sunday . People do weird shit mate, you obv don't play enough hands

suppose you also think people don't 3b/fold off 25bbs too right?

This is deep in a huge field tournament people are not even close to doing anything like this.

Fwiw I came 100th in this tournament the last 2 weeks so have decent idea.

I'd say ak was more of a puke than aq was a fist pump and I'd definitely be folding tens too.

er wut?

The sunday storm how incredibly nitty people are late in the tournament. I r/f aroubded 40% and table 2bet was probably less than 5%

this is 4 hours into a 10 hour tournament mate, so you obv don't remember it very well..................... it really isn't "late/deep"

as for people laddering, 1000th got $83 and 100th got $230

For 99pc of people playing a 10 dollar tournament blind 5k/10k will feel deep but we I think it's a fold and not close at all ad you think the opposite don't think we're goog to change our minds here heh.

The point is spots like this are dynamic driven and without reads you can easily argue both sides

Some of the stuff you have posted to justify your side like "laddering" and "I got 100th twice" are about the worst things you have posted in some time mate. It's not about being right in here and the way you have tried to make your point on this is fairly lol worthy tbh. You post good stuff on pha, but dont try always be right

Huh surely the I've played at this stage recently vs these players and know how tight they are and how it plas is more relevant than 'I got in 99 for 45bbs on sunday' but ok I'm out

Peaceeee

I suggest you read all those posts again! I sure said that!

It's rediculously douchy to say in justification of an arguement what you did! And you know it.

Put me in the fold camp. He isn't light here ever an won't be folding much to a 4b jam

This was eye-opening.

All in

All in

But if u are getting loads of raises through then u can make a fold, all depends in game IMO and how well u playing your table.

As played think I'm getting it in.

I fold, they're not light often enough deep in $11s.

After OPRing him I almost probbably def fold. Despite the fact that UTG is the 2011 BTN, I can't seem him being light often enough. Even the worst players manage to pull the trigger eventually sometimes however.

His stats are decently aggro but then again only 35 hands. Are they all from this table?  Do you know his Fold to 3b?

Still think it's closer than people saying ez fold

After OPR'ing him I would suggest this more of a shove.  Villain is clearly a bad player.  He is not thinking if I 3b here I have to call cause of x stacks behind, all he's thinking about is, this guys opening a lot, 3betting is cool and he folded to one last time, lets do that.  They have sooo much spazz range at this BI level I don't think I can consider doing anything but shoving.

Pretty easy fold for me.

I'd pile vs anyone vaguely reggy. People loving 3betting this exact spot light atm

How do you know what villain is thinking btw?
Fold for me too.

Unfortunately my nit tendencies found a fold. I should really have really found a 4 bet here though in what seems quite an exploitable position.
Cheers all for taking the time to explain your rationales.