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Title: is this the right thing to do? Post by: Oxford_HRV on June 03, 2013, 09:55:42 AM $5r pretty much readless, hasn't been on my table. 65 runners top 8 paid
prizes: 300 180 130 98 71 55 35 26 Full Tilt Poker Game #32762886820: $750 Guar (Extended Rebuy) (254718361), Table 7 - NL Hold'em - 1500/3000 Ante 400 - 09:19:50 WET - 2013/06/03 [04:19:50 ET - 2013/06/03] Seat 1: DvH90 (32,600) Seat 2: Karina2013 (27,292) Seat 3: gertbock (88,300) Seat 4: sumerki-2012 (21,271) Seat 6: igloe (45,733) Seat 7: anuplander (60,438) Seat 8: bundesbruno (71,930) Seat 9: HEMM7 (33,436) DvH90 antes 400 Karina2013 antes 400 gertbock antes 400 sumerki-2012 antes 400 igloe antes 400 anuplander antes 400 bundesbruno antes 400 HEMM7 antes 400 bundesbruno posts the small blind of 1,500 HEMM7 posts the big blind of 3,000 The button is in seat #7 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HEMM7 [Ac 7c] DvH90 folds Karina2013 folds gertbock folds sumerki-2012 folds igloe raises to 9,000 anuplander folds bundesbruno folds 17K in POT is it worth it? HEMM7 raises to 33,036, and is all in igloe calls 24,036 HEMM7 shows [Ac 7c] igloe shows [Jd Jh] *** FLOP *** [2c 3s Kh] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** TURN *** [2c 3s Kh] [8c] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** RIVER *** [2c 3s Kh 8c] [9h] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In) HEMM7 shows Ace King high igloe shows a pair of Jacks igloe wins the pot (70,772) with a pair of Jacks personally expecting villain to be 3x opening a kind of hand range like 44+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,A8o+,KJo+ you guys will probably turn out to say this is super standard, especially the more i look at it. avg is like ~14bb and considering icm n all that is this correct? how light should we be calling? should this be the bottom of my calling range here? thanks. Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: the rage on June 03, 2013, 11:25:00 AM I haven't played much recently, but i thought i would have a go anyway.
I would say that, looking at the stack sizes of yourself and villian, everything points to villian having a much stronger opening range. he probably knows that he can't fold if the big blind shoves and is more likely raising a strong hand for value, rather than shoving. Dominating aces are a posssibility in villian's range, so i dont believe that your hand plays particularly well in this spot. I think that it would be better to fold here and try and get your chips in with some fold equity. Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: BulldozerD on June 03, 2013, 01:14:44 PM would fold this as you don't have alot of fold equity and A7 plays pretty bad vs most opening ranges. Would probably draw the line at AT/AJ. I'd prefer to fold this and jam on the two shorter stacks after you.
This is presuming there are 8 left. Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: Oxford_HRV on June 03, 2013, 05:05:32 PM i think it was quite a rushed decision by me. i agree now i should be waiting/folding for a better hand. what range should i be opening and should it always be an all in move?
Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: SubZERO on June 04, 2013, 09:50:22 PM Yep only one move - all in
99+ aq+ (a bit tighter than normal due to the 3x raise pre) Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: dreenie on June 05, 2013, 03:19:21 AM Yep only one move - all in 99+ aq+ (a bit tighter than normal due to the 3x raise pre) This ^ Fold the A7cc vs 3x open unless u have specific reads, just never gonna end well. Plenty of better spots. Title: Re: is this the right thing to do? Post by: gouty on June 05, 2013, 04:21:30 AM I haven't played much recently, but i thought i would have a go anyway. This is quite correct. It's not about your hand its all all about opponents stack size. Whether you use M ratings or bbs this raise is telling you that he is committed to this hand pre flop for his stack unless you have loads of previous with him. I would say that, looking at the stack sizes of yourself and villian, everything points to villian having a much stronger opening range. he probably knows that he can't fold if the big blind shoves and is more likely raising a strong hand for value, rather than shoving. Dominating aces are a posssibility in villian's range, so i dont believe that your hand plays particularly well in this spot. I think that it would be better to fold here and try and get your chips in with some fold equity. You need to shove that hand against an aggro bigger stack to give yourself a chance of the opponent folding. Overall 3 bet shoving is your best weapon with your stack on a ft but against min raise from a bigger stack is ideal. I love dem fts on tilt. All the crowd looking etc.. Does that still happen? |