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Title: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 04, 2013, 11:22:34 AM
Had this happen this morning; be interesting what others would have done...

Train to London, packed as usual. Got on with the smugged look of some-one with a reserved seat.

So carrying my laptop bag and a rucksack, I arrive at coach C, seat 31.

Someone is sitting in it, not having that!! The cheek of them...

It's a lady, pffft.... Oh she is pregnant.

I stood for the 60min journey...


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2013, 11:24:54 AM

Stand, & feel good.

Nothing beats the feel-good factor.

 


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Laxie on June 04, 2013, 11:29:22 AM
Definitely stand.  Well done you :)


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 AM

Stand, & feel good.

Nothing beats the feel-good factor.

 

Completely agree, all I needed was a puddle and a coat to complete the day


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2013, 11:32:00 AM

Stand, & feel good.

Nothing beats the feel-good factor.

 

Completely agree, all I needed was a puddle and a coat to complete the day

Ha!

Excellent.

Sir Walter Wazzleigh. 


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 04, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
The old pillow up the jumper routine......never fails :)




Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: EvilPie on June 04, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Make the tight fisted bint move!!

One thing beats the feel good factor and that's the sat down factor.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2013, 11:59:46 AM
Make the tight fisted bint move!!

One thing beats the feel good factor and that's the sat down factor.


Bang out of order, Russell. *

* Except for OAP's.



Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: George2Loose on June 04, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
I had similar dilemma. Lady with crutches sat in my booked seat. Took her about 5 mins to move when I asked her


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: kinboshi on June 04, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
Assuming there are no other seats?


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Tal on June 04, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
Go to a random hoody nearby. Hold your ticket and say "is this your seat? 27B? I have this reserved." He'll move. Then you get the seat plus the satisfaction of not making the pregnant lady move, without losing the "I've booked a seat" smugness.

Nut play IMO.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Tal on June 04, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
I had similar dilemma. Lady with crutches sat in my booked seat. Took her about 5 mins to move when I asked her

Take it you finished by shouting to her

"Not surprised you're on crutches if you keep nicking seats, sweetheart"


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: mondatoo on June 04, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Make the tight fisted bint move!!

One thing beats the feel good factor and that's the sat down factor.


Didn't think cost was a factor ?

A while ago I paid £160 for a one way ticket from London and didn't get a reserved seat!


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: dino1980 on June 04, 2013, 03:31:39 PM
Once had a similar dilemma for a journey home from Clapham Junction to Exeter one Christmas (3 and a bit hour journey). Had booked my ticket a few weeks in advance as it was the closest Friday to Xmas and knew it'd be rammed. Despite the train starting at Waterloo and Clapham being only the second stop on the journey the train was standing room only when I got on. As I walked down the carriage looking at the seat numbers above the seats as I did, I noticed from a few seats away from the one I'd booked that an elderly lady was sat in it. So I simply turned around making it look like I'd been looking for any empty seat and stood in the bit in-between carriages for the journey home and had a great natter with some lad who was also heading home for Xmas.

edit: I seem to remember Camel posting a story about a jam packed train he was on (due to the previous train being cancelled) and a couple refusing to move their bags off the two seats opposite them because those seats had been booked by friends of theirs. But their friends weren't even on the train but they reasoned since they'd been paid for by their friends that they could use them as they wished and they used them to store their bags.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Tal on June 04, 2013, 03:35:05 PM
Thinking aloud...

If you know a train is going to be busy, dress in drag and have a pillow under your dress for a bump.

Don't even need to reserve. Thread shows there are enough gentlemen out there who have saved you a seat ;)


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 04, 2013, 04:04:02 PM
Assuming there are no other seats?

No seats anywhere. Now how funny would that be if is asked her to move as she was in "my" seat, when say a seat was available say, opposite or something!!

People like that exist I'm sure of it!


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: AndrewT on June 04, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
Yes, here in London everything may be ridic expensive, but one consolation is getting on a train at the start of its journey, so avoiding these provincial dilemmas.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: leethefish on June 04, 2013, 11:20:08 PM
100 % give my reserved or not seat up for any lady or elderly it's the right thing to do as a normal gentleman in civerlized society.



Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: EvilPie on June 05, 2013, 12:03:41 AM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: theprawnidentity on June 05, 2013, 12:21:28 AM
Oh she is pregnant.

Would need verbal confirmation of this before deciding.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: GreekStein on June 05, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


Im pretty sure you're trolling but I'll say anyway...

This is a pregnant woman. Unless it's someone who's pregnant or with a very young child or someone sick/elderly then you can just tell anyone else to move


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: EvilPie on June 05, 2013, 12:53:59 AM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


Im pretty sure you're trolling but I'll say anyway...

This is a pregnant woman. Unless it's someone who's pregnant or with a very young child or someone sick/elderly then you can just tell anyone else to move

Cock off with the 'trolling'!!  It's a fucking question!!


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: GreekStein on June 05, 2013, 01:04:21 AM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


Im pretty sure you're trolling but I'll say anyway...

This is a pregnant woman. Unless it's someone who's pregnant or with a very young child or someone sick/elderly then you can just tell anyone else to move

Cock off with the 'trolling'!!  It's a fucking question!!


cock off with the silly questions!


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Bertpup on June 05, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
This is an obvious case of letting the woman keep the seat. However when the ticket inspector comes around point out that your standing because there is a pregnant woman in your reserved seat. If you catch them on a good day chance you might get a nice little upgrade to first and away from the riff raff.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: gouty on June 05, 2013, 03:22:12 AM
Incredible thread from a bloke who would not give up his seat in a PLO game when he went over to nandos or whatever it is across the car park.

Ultra nit in the poker room.

LAG on public transport?

I call BS.



Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: leethefish on June 05, 2013, 07:41:34 AM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


I've never reserved a seat


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Doobs on June 05, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
Yes, here in London everything may be ridic expensive, but one consolation is getting on a train at the start of its journey, so avoiding these provincial dilemmas.

I lived in London for years, can confirm I was always armpit to nose on most trains I joined.  Always give seat up for a pregnant lady if obvious or if asked.  Think I only managed to offend one fat lass in that time. 


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Tal on June 05, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Yes, here in London everything may be ridic expensive, but one consolation is getting on a train at the start of its journey, so avoiding these provincial dilemmas.

I lived in London for years, can confirm I was always armpit to nose on most trains I joined.  Always give seat up for a pregnant lady if obvious or if asked.  Think I only managed to offend one fat lass in that time. 

Applies to any lady, any known serviceman, anyone over "a certain age" and anyone with an apparent disability.

I find the best reward is not telling anyone afterwards that you did it.

There are very few feelings in this world better than doing something nice for someone and not telling a soul about it.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: George2Loose on June 05, 2013, 09:20:39 AM
I look both pregnant and old so will not be reserving any seats in future- just using them


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Acidmouse on June 05, 2013, 01:44:14 PM
New ACL etc etc so I used to sit down on the old peoples seat alot with crutches for a few years, the looks I would get until they saw my crutch :)

Last week me and the wife /2 kids caught the train from charing cross to chislehurst. 4 seater, kids next to the windows me and wife next to isles. Very busy and man sits virtually on top of my wife, squeezing on the end pushing her over...

Didn't say a word as he sat down,  so my wife pushed him off....(not something I would have done) the geezer (looked in his late 40s manual worker) seemed upset. She then told him to go away in no uncertain terms....American's 1 - 0 Rude cockneys


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: wazz on June 05, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
It's not even about what you want here, it's about the fact that it's gonna be pretty difficult to ask her to get up.

Don't really see what London has to do with any of this.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: the sicilian on June 05, 2013, 04:18:20 PM
I had similar dilemma. Lady with crutches sat in my booked seat. Took her about 5 mins to move when I asked her

Not sure why but I actually did lol at this !


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: nirvana on June 05, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
New ACL etc etc so I used to sit down on the old peoples seat alot with crutches for a few years, the looks I would get until they saw my crutch :)

Last week me and the wife /2 kids caught the train from charing cross to chislehurst. 4 seater, kids next to the windows me and wife next to isles. Very busy and man sits virtually on top of my wife, squeezing on the end pushing her over...

Didn't say a word as he sat down,  so my wife pushed him off....(not something I would have done) the geezer (looked in his late 40s manual worker) seemed upset. She then told him to go away in no uncertain terms....American's 1 - 0 Rude cockneys

Good on your wife :-)


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 05, 2013, 09:17:01 PM
Can I ask a question to all these people who would give up their reserved seat;

Why do you bother reserving one in the first place?


i reserved it as it was very busy, so i hoped that i would get a table seat so i could do some work on way down - at the very least a seat for the trip.  simply assumed it wouldn't be taken up, by some-one that I wouldn't ask to move.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 05, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
Incredible thread from a bloke who would not give up his seat in a PLO game when he went over to nandos or whatever it is across the car park.

Ultra nit in the poker room.

LAG on public transport?

I call BS.



aimed at me personally or have i missed the point/jibe/joke/level?

if you're meaning it - I've never played PLO live, and haven't been to Nando's, so I'll assume you've got the wrong guy, or I've missed something.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: kinboshi on June 05, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Book a seat in 1st class - problem solved.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: gouty on June 06, 2013, 12:50:08 AM
Incredible thread from a bloke who would not give up his seat in a PLO game when he went over to nandos or whatever it is across the car park.

Ultra nit in the poker room.

LAG on public transport?

I call BS.



aimed at me personally or have i missed the point/jibe/joke/level?

if you're meaning it - I've never played PLO live, and haven't been to Nando's, so I'll assume you've got the wrong guy, or I've missed something.
Sorry Wazz.. I was sure I played with you at dtd about 3/4 years ago 2/2 PLO for hours on the table nearest the brush desk.

You have never played live PLO so it was obviously not you. Good job too. He was not nice.

I like your pha stuff too Wazz. Nandos is the generic name in our house for any of those tax dodging mega chains of restaurants near bowling alleys and inside shopping centres.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: wazz on June 06, 2013, 12:56:12 AM
Incredible thread from a bloke who would not give up his seat in a PLO game when he went over to nandos or whatever it is across the car park.

Ultra nit in the poker room.

LAG on public transport?

I call BS.



aimed at me personally or have i missed the point/jibe/joke/level?

if you're meaning it - I've never played PLO live, and haven't been to Nando's, so I'll assume you've got the wrong guy, or I've missed something.
Sorry Wazz.. I was sure I played with you at dtd about 3/4 years ago 2/2 PLO for hours on the table nearest the brush desk.

You have never played live PLO so it was obviously not you. Good job too. He was not nice.

I like your pha stuff too Wazz. Nandos is the generic name in our house for any of those tax dodging mega chains of restaurants near bowling alleys and inside shopping centres.

Thinking of me?

I remember a thing at DTD where I turned down the opportunity to go to Nandos because I didn't want to give up my seat on a PLO table.... perhaps that's what you were referring to? Hopefully not...


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 06, 2013, 01:23:59 AM
Agree with Matt.

She should not have been sat there, it says reserved do one love!

If you were on crutches, would you ask her to move?

My missus was preggers up and til 2 months ago, pretty sure Id be asking her to move if she was sat on my reserved seat.



Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: tikay on June 06, 2013, 06:42:17 AM
There seems to be some confusion in the thread between "waz1892" & "wazz".

They are different prople.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: DungBeetle on June 06, 2013, 09:42:09 AM
Book a seat in 1st class - problem solved.

What happens if you get to 1st class and there is a pregnant woman in your seat who hasn't paid?  Same dilemna surely?


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: gouty on June 06, 2013, 02:30:34 PM
There seems to be some confusion in the thread between "waz1892" & "wazz".

They are different prople.
Correct. Apologies to waz1892.


Title: Re: Oh what to do, what to do; a social and moral dilemma thread
Post by: Waz1892 on June 06, 2013, 05:40:48 PM
There seems to be some confusion in the thread between "waz1892" & "wazz".

They are different prople.
Correct. Apologies to waz1892.

No need for apologies, no worries no harm done, and easily confused with the names!