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There was 5 players left in the 25/25 series @ Blackpool.

They decide to chop it all up 5 ways.

They decide to whoever gets the high card wins the trophy!

Thoughts?

Skill game.

My thoughts are that no one gives a shit about the trophy! Money pays the bills not trophies. If I was in a situation where my opponent offered me a bigger split if they could keep be declared the "winner" and have a trophy I would snap accept! Rather take the money than massage my ego

Ridic deal.

Trophies ARE everything :D

All I can say is that they're lucky Nick Hicks wasn't playing it.

It's all about the money, but usually in these situation there is usually something left to play for and trophy for overall winner, no?

If it was me, I'd rather not have the trophy at all, than win it through pure randomness.

I agree that high card is ridic! What would someone do if at a final of an EPT headsup and other player offered you an extra 15k for tr trophy and for him to be registered as the winner?

Tell him where to go!

Potential sponsorship and prestige from being winner worth more than that.

Think it is good.  Nothing worse than carving outa deal and then someone playing on for rankings points online.  You win, I am off to bed.

On reflection, the worst was chopping a limit tournament and then not been able to go all in blind next hand.  Bet, bet, bet, bet ffs.


 

They can do what they like.

However, I like winning and I'm used to getting trophies when I win something (granted, not in poker :'( ), so I'd absolutely refuse to do it on a high card. I'd sooner give them a tenner each to lift the cup.

I didn't think of sponsorship so that's a valid point but haven't these dried up since black Friday? Anyone got any idea how many EPT winners from the last 12months have a sponsorship deal? Maybe EPT was a bad example on my part! Let's say something like the Monte Carlo at DTD, I believe there's a trophy and won't attract you a sponsor for winning it. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Guy in 2nd place wants a bigger cut and he will let you have the trophy. Obviously depends on numbers but would you be happy with the principal?

If everybody wants to chop and nobody cares about the trophy only deal if you can have the trophy. Getting a 1st place and a trophy for opening your mouth seems ok.

Truestory

You've set me up massively for this, so forgive me, but since I already have a Monte Carlo trophy, I'd take the cash and 2nd place now :P

Sorry it had to be done.

Actually knowing me, I like the glory too much, I'd still want the trophy! #shallow

This was ridiculous and if I was lucky enough to survive till the final table I would no way have agreed to this.

I had a very interesting conversation with Thewy about titles and 1st places in tournaments. They are so much more important in the long term of things than the extra money you get from the deal. Not often you get to play for a proper Trophy/Title no matter what event it is. Julian seems to have a knack of seeing tournaments out (look at his HM, most final tables are 1st's) the publicity (in the poker world) you get from a first place is far superior, for example Julian did a deal in the GPS Birmingham but they left abit for 1st...once the deal had been done Julian felt he was in a better position to win it now as everybody else seemed content in their prize money and let's spin it up for the rest mode and he took it down. The write up in the magazines had a big picture of him with the trophy and a big write up talking about HIM. Nothing about Barry Neville who got really bloody unlucky to get 2nd.

In the long term of things, it looks and sounds better to say I made a few final tables in xyz comps and was the GUKPT 25/25 series champion rather than I got a 3rd or a 4th in the GUKPT and a few other final tables.

High card for the win is just joke. The guy who actually won the high card was the shortest stack and he's down as finishing 5th oddly enough. 

Winning is important.

Agree^

People laughed at me for the deal I did HU in the sky poker thing. I don't regret it for a second. I gave up like £500 in equity for trophy, title, winners photo, interview with sarah champion etc. Looks good on the HM with 1st 1st 1st like Liam says, so adds value to future staking packages etc. Loads of things. Plus I was knackered and we were 100bb deep so could've gone on for ages and the guy could play too.

Cheers mate!

Trophies can't play for hookers and blow

I think I'd take £££ very few companies I'd want sponsorship from and really don't think its worth anything like 15k in equity. A trophy would be nice and obviously the title has some nice bragging rights!!

Cue the next staking package having an asterix next to "This is my Hendon mob".

:D

How does giving up equity add value to future staking packages?

Sure you can do deals when short handed in the business end of the tournament. But when there is a trophy and ranking points involved, the 2 players left have to play it out?

Why would u pay someone more money just to get 1st & the trophy? That defeats the whole object of winning IMO.

I remember when I was heads up in the £300 deep stack at DTD, Simon said we were allowed to discuss a deal but it had to be played out as there were different ranking points given for different finishing positions. In the end we didn't do a deal for the money (I was naive), and he smacked the deck hard and won more money & more points etc, but I was happy at giving it a real go at becoming the winner in that poker tournament.

Even Online - you have to play it out, whether that means going all in blind every hand or whatever, there needs to be 1 clear winner.

I think every card room running these types of tournaments should allow deals but keep an amount for the winner & the trophy, and the 2 people left have to play it out regardless.

In this comp the remaining 5 players chopped 5 ways equally.

Actual winner was Lawrence Gosney who didnt want the trophy. Second place didn't want the trophy either, so the players decided to high card for it. The guy who "won" the trophy was the short stack.

All about the trophy, not that i would take less to gurantee me the trophy :)

Bit ridiculous really 5 way chop highest card wins, what was the prizepool, probably irrelevant but i would never do this!

Hard enough getting me to do a bubble deal when i'm the shortstack lol

This was the deal.


Gary Millington - £10,520
Laurence Gosney - £10,520
Gordon Smith - £8,000
Andreas Olympios - £7,000
Matthew Eardley - £7,000


A very unsatisfactory conclusion to a great comp. Leave some up top to play for IMO.

<3 lozza G

Paul Parker would have left with more than first.

Confirmed. He was proper valuable at school in my sticker book. I had dozens of Phil Babbs before I got him.

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38345000/jpg/_38345561_parker150.jpg)

TY very poor form IMO but hey ho 5 people obviously didn't think so..

Why is it poor form?

Why can't they chop it up if they so desire? Presumably all 5 agreed.

I would suggest they are entitled to do exactly as they wish, hard to see why that is "poor form". Everyone has different financial situations and aspirations. 

This. I really don't see how anyone can say it's "poor form".

I think they should withhold the trophy in situations like that.  Theyre all happy to chop the money up so if they dont want to win it outright they shouldnt be given a trophy

No problem with that. Doubt Gosney would, either.

I only played it because it had a trophy  ;hide; ;hide; ;hide;

Same as I'm only playing the Wynn because somebody posted up the cool trophy lol.

Now...if only I can actually  ;karabiner; ;karabiner;win one haha