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Title: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 10, 2013, 01:14:02 PM I've had HEM1 for a few years , I'm not a techie and to say I struggled with it is an understatement. Anyway the HUD part is now broken.
The HEM people are obv more geared up to HEM2 now so, I've been offered HEM2 at a reduced rate which I have been given on trial for a month, seems fair enough but given that I know I'll get very very frustrated setting it up & will tilt badly and there will surely be tears, so, what I'd like to ask you peeps is - will it be worth it or should I muddle along without? I'm grinding & holding my own at the moment, far from making a living yet but trying, yes I know I'm probably at a disadvantage but the thought of all the pain trying to set it up even at a simple level is sending shudders through my veins. Yes I know there are video's to help, I've watched a few this morning, I've managed to get it working on Stars but I can't figure it out how to get it working on ipoker & put my aliases together. Yes I am that bad! So peeps do I/ don't I? If I do can you peeps help with what is obviously going to be a few painful posts on here? cheers, Shaz -xXx- Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: TL900 on June 10, 2013, 02:28:06 PM Ive heard very good things from a few friends about pokertracker 4, maybe you should check that out too.
As for should you/shouldn't you there are alot of top players who don't use a HUD, however it is a small price to pay when it gives you so much information and are able to use the data to your advantage. I don't know how many tables you play but if you play lets say under 6 then you can get along without it (but just take extensive notes imo) anything more than 6 tables and HEM/PT become very useful imo when taking notes becomes a little harder in game. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 10, 2013, 04:56:48 PM hem2 = the resource hog of the world
SSD is a must. if you do not understand the second line. hmmmm keep hem 1 lol fwiw I still use h1 over h2 just because there were lots of slowdown issues/and initial bugs (obv snap bought it because h1 was so good). pt4 getting good reviews too so worth looking around. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: pleno1 on June 10, 2013, 04:59:59 PM pt4 is amazeballs.
Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Fenix35 on June 10, 2013, 05:14:13 PM only reason i updated from hem1 to hem2 was so that my hud would also work on omaha tournaments i was playing too - as a tournament player probably not worth the update but for cash grinder with a huge database where u want to analyse this and that might be more worth ur time
Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 10, 2013, 05:15:58 PM only reason i updated from hem1 to hem2 was so that my hud would also work on omaha tournaments i was playing too - as a tournament player probably not worth the update but for cash grinder with a huge database where u want to analyse this and that might be more worth ur time not sure if serious you're in vegas lad, get back to grinding baduuuecy xx gl Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 11, 2013, 01:28:50 AM only reason i updated from hem1 to hem2 was so that my hud would also work on omaha tournaments i was playing too - as a tournament player probably not worth the update but for cash grinder with a huge database where u want to analyse this and that might be more worth ur time So if you play both then obv HEM is better than PT? Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 11, 2013, 03:44:47 PM hem2 = the resource hog of the world SSD is a must. if you do not understand the second line. hmmmm keep hem 1 lol fwiw I still use h1 over h2 just because there were lots of slowdown issues/and initial bugs (obv snap bought it because h1 was so good). pt4 getting good reviews too so worth looking around. Thank you Tittybean and lol yes I've heard of SSD. Not 100% sure on what to do with it tho! My guess would be to store your database on? Yes/No? Thanks for all the comments thus far. Pleno, I will look at PT4 but having read the above about HEM2 working with Omaha (my love, my downfall) I feel the HEM is gonna sneak it. By the way, I now have it running on most networks so if anyone was scared of chipping in, feel free, I'm not going to jump on you! :) Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 11, 2013, 03:47:38 PM if you have an ssd it will just improve performance exponentially compared to a normal hd.
dbs can get big quick, and hem2 tried to be clever by doing more stuff but that in turn made it really resource intensive. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 11, 2013, 03:55:21 PM if you have an ssd it will just improve performance exponentially compared to a normal hd. dbs can get big quick, and hem2 tried to be clever by doing more stuff but that in turn made it really resource intensive. so that's a minus for HEM & a + for PT4 then. Thank you. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 11, 2013, 04:25:15 PM well h1 still runs fine on a normal hd. but yah pt4 does seem where it's at.
Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Dry em on June 11, 2013, 05:16:09 PM Drop me a message Shaz if you're still having problems setting it up on iPoker
Karl Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: tikay on June 11, 2013, 05:35:29 PM Drop me a message Shaz if you're still having problems setting it up on iPoker Karl So good. You should run a poker site, you really should. :) Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 12, 2013, 01:25:03 PM Drop me a message Shaz if you're still having problems setting it up on iPoker Karl So good. You should run a poker site, you really should. :) Thanks Karl I will. Mr Kendall isn't wrong either :) Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 12, 2013, 01:42:00 PM if you have an ssd it will just improve performance exponentially compared to a normal hd. dbs can get big quick, and hem2 tried to be clever by doing more stuff but that in turn made it really resource intensive. I've waited a while for HEM2 to get a little less buggy; recently I started looking at it again. I took the opportunity to get the recommended specs of their website - and then e-mailled it to a specialist PC builder for their thoughts. This was their response: Firstly a solid state hard drive is a definite requirement, RAID we would suggest is not - spreading everything across two drives just leads to your losing everything if one fails. The solid state hard drives boot up the whole system in a matter of seconds so we would recommend a 256Gb Samsung 840 Pro Solid State Hard Drive and a 2Tb Seagate Barracuda SATA hard drive. We would also recommend 16Gb RAM. The processor could be either a core i5 or an i7 depending on your budget. With regard to using four screens, we recommend an AMD Radeon Gigabyte HD 7970 3072MB graphics card with windforce anti turbulence cooling. The Operating System could be Windows 8 or Windows 7, whichever is your preference. This kind of spec, to include water cooling, is obviously not going to come cheap and would include DVDRW, triple aerial wireless, usb2 and 3, network point etc. If you are not already fixed up, we would be happy to quote you properly. Oh. This sounds like it's way to techy & expensive......... Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: bobAlike on June 12, 2013, 02:15:10 PM if you have an ssd it will just improve performance exponentially compared to a normal hd. dbs can get big quick, and hem2 tried to be clever by doing more stuff but that in turn made it really resource intensive. I've waited a while for HEM2 to get a little less buggy; recently I started looking at it again. I took the opportunity to get the recommended specs of their website - and then e-mailled it to a specialist PC builder for their thoughts. This was their response: Firstly a solid state hard drive is a definite requirement, RAID we would suggest is not - spreading everything across two drives just leads to your losing everything if one fails. The solid state hard drives boot up the whole system in a matter of seconds so we would recommend a 256Gb Samsung 840 Pro Solid State Hard Drive and a 2Tb Seagate Barracuda SATA hard drive. We would also recommend 16Gb RAM. The processor could be either a core i5 or an i7 depending on your budget. With regard to using four screens, we recommend an AMD Radeon Gigabyte HD 7970 3072MB graphics card with windforce anti turbulence cooling. The Operating System could be Windows 8 or Windows 7, whichever is your preference. This kind of spec, to include water cooling, is obviously not going to come cheap and would include DVDRW, triple aerial wireless, usb2 and 3, network point etc. If you are not already fixed up, we would be happy to quote you properly. Oh. This sounds like it's way to techy & expensive......... I just bought a Dell system with that spec but with only dual screen capability. I went for the i7 processor. From pressing the on button it only takes 20 seconds to be ready for use. Cost me just under 1k. Not the cheapest but I'm smiling all the way. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 12, 2013, 02:19:14 PM no need for raid lolz.
16 gb is also a tad excessive, 8 is still lots really but obv errryone loves ram. it also seems kinda weird to be asking for advice on a setup then be getting such a top end one with 4 monitors imo. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: outragous76 on June 12, 2013, 02:21:44 PM I don't use a HUD atm
do PT4 and HEM2 track speed poker on I poker? Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 12, 2013, 10:47:02 PM why 4 monitors?
why not 2 with proper resolution? raid? Why do you think you need it? are you a government department, or a large office, or someone with terabytes of data to be stored and backed up if not lol utterly no need. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 12, 2013, 11:00:18 PM Ah i see. nah the recommended spec on hem forum states raid! U reckon 2? What size n resolution? Raid, is a methodology to have multiple harddrives working in conjunction so that you can never lose stuff without literally everything going tits up at once. really isn't worth it just for a poker pc. similarly 2 monitors running high res will be more than enough, I can 18-30 table very easily on 2 screens running 1920x1080. you want specifically computer screens not TVs, tvs have much worse resolution relative to their size. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 12, 2013, 11:08:26 PM Appreciate the advice. i run 2 monitors but resolution must be poor...what size screens u use?? had 2x 28" widescreen hans gs which were joke cheap and lasted for ages. got 2x 27" phillips now, both are fine, not super cheap but w/e. got a 32" tv on the wall and it's just balls to use as a pc screen, so terrible compared to the 27s. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 12, 2013, 11:14:24 PM Ive heard very good things from a few friends about pokertracker 4, maybe you should check that out too. As for should you/shouldn't you there are alot of top players who don't use a HUD, however it is a small price to pay when it gives you so much information and are able to use the data to your advantage. I don't know how many tables you play but if you play lets say under 6 then you can get along without it (but just take extensive notes imo) anything more than 6 tables and HEM/PT become very useful imo when taking notes becomes a little harder in game. Thanks TL, 6 max at the moment but better on 4, I'm not the greatest note taker in the world so I used Notecaddy which ran off my HEM as a back up. This is now in one of the options on HEM2. Will have a look at PT4 but have to say I'm used to HEM, if I could fix my HEM1 I'd be happy tbh. I now have HEM2 running happily on the main sites I use, but have o idea what's wrong with my HEM1. Abso stumped on why it won't work now. Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 12, 2013, 11:46:53 PM obv suggestions are obv.
full uninstall/reinstall of hem1, download newest updates etc. recheck all file locations/for importing/saving etc then go through hem support pages, think 1 gets alot less help now but they were still excellent at getting back to people/communication and even teamviewering to fix problems. what problems are you having exactly? Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 13, 2013, 12:33:01 AM First off I didn't have a HUD/stats on Stars, then all the ipoker/Boss. I've had to reinstall a couple of sites, maybe they are now being saved in different places. I didn't try the uninstall/reinstall - sounds easy, scares the crap out of me!
It was saving the files I just didn't have the pop ups. think. The HEM peeps are obv more geared to HEM1 and I emailed them a copy of my config folder. I'm still waiting for a response. I don't get an error code. Just no pop ups. As soon as I switched hm1 off as they instructed and installed hm2 - I have pop ups! Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: Supernova on June 21, 2013, 12:04:42 AM Well after what seems like a lifetime of emails back and forth after a near 4 hour Teamviewer session with one of their support team my h1 is fixed. The HUD is back to the very basic level but it works. Apparently my firewall (Avast) did a huge update in April and caused a huge amount of problems with HM and managed to kill mine off. I have issues now with the resolution of alot of things i.e. writing this seems smaller and Notecaddy doesn't work as it is over a screen and a half tall & I don't know how/why/what but will probably get to it later.
The HEM guy was very helpful and we had a chat about what was needed for h2, I'd be fine for now but as Beany said as the database grew the guy said I'd need to look at a total of 8gb of ram and an SSD would be ideal. He did send me a couple of links to posts in their forum, if anyone wants them please pm me & I'll happily pass them on. Thanks for your help & discussion guys, I'm still sitting on the fence for now! Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: titaniumbean on June 21, 2013, 01:25:15 AM their support are the absolutes tbf
Title: Re: HEM2 - Do I/Don't I ? Post by: jgcblack on June 21, 2013, 08:14:05 AM Ah i see. nah the recommended spec on hem forum states raid! U reckon 2? What size n resolution? Raid, is a methodology to have multiple harddrives working in conjunction so that you can never lose stuff without literally everything going tits up at once. really isn't worth it just for a poker pc. similarly 2 monitors running high res will be more than enough, I can 18-30 table very easily on 2 screens running 1920x1080. you want specifically computer screens not TVs, tvs have much worse resolution relative to their size. this... I went for an ott option of 3 on a stand. Works like a dream and the monitors are something to not scrimp on!!! I have 3x HP 24 inch puppies with every connector known to man, also have extra usb ports (handy) http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001FS1LLI/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-6098805-8256959 Not cheap... but like any real 'spend' - there should be a balance.... people so often underspend on cooling, monitors, seating, mouse etc.... (Having had them for a year now... id never have or recommend anything else... bout £400 each tho... ) glgl im probably going to look to get a ssd and another 8gb ram to see if I can get it working quick enough for my tastes. got some friends at work who are sql wizzards, experimenting with running hem2 in a virtual machine to restrict its ability to take over and slow the whole pc down. |