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Badges, Branding and The Quality of DTD.

The talent within the card room of DTD, in my opinion, destroys that of many Casinos combined - Full of MTT and Cash heros.
Increasing Brand Awareness through the simple means of Badging a player does work.

Using tomsom as an example if he doesn't mind. He was wearing a badge of an Online Poker Site. He was a nice guy, he had a laugh and played very well. So, the next morning I went on that site and since, I have spent some $ on staking. Simple.

All DTD Regs all play at other casinos and now, travel the world playing events.
Have DTD ever thought of asking player to wear their brand? Online poker for DTD is the money builder, not really the club itself. So promote this through the means of branding players. Unlike Genting, paying 20k a year for players to play events. Out of the best players at DTD, I am sure 90% would happily wear your badge or hoody for nothing. Social media and blonde is full of people heading to Vegas, surely a simple message to ask if DTD can send you a hoody will cause no hassle to both parties. Lot a Europeans out there!

Team DTD Online?

DTD has many v good regs, but seriously, destroys that of other casinos combined???

That is not really the main point of the post, it was just an opinion that the players at DTD have a better attitude and advanced skill level than those at many other casinos. Should have giving more info, but tried to say that they could trust the attitude and quality of the average DTD reg whilst wearing their brand. But yeah, many casinos, not all! I do feel the quality of DTD players destroys that of (for example).. G Casino regs.

That's a big statement, it's a Friday night, so ill let you win. :)

I get the main point of your post though.

Would this cost DTD money?  Is it worth DTD paying for it?

That number is way off but I think it's a good idea overall.

I think you're overestimating how often the average player pays attention to another players patch and overestimating how many players would wear stuff for free

I don't agree. In the long run it is profitable. Its targeted, in your face for 9 hours at the tables and recyclable. Perfect form of advertising a brand at minimal cost.

We are not Phil Helmuth. Why would most regs DTD charge? What would they charge?
I drink redbull, if they sent me a T-Shirt I would wear it cus it is a shirt for free and a product I personally use and trust. I wouldn't email them and say give me money or I won't wear it.


People pay VPP's to wear the Pokerstars logo? Yes, massive brand, but the customer is paying to advertise their products.

DTD want to target recreational and consistant players. Thats their market.
I am not on about sponsoring a guy for the WSOP final table.

It is a cheap form of targeted brand awareness to gain the average player who will sign up, deposit and increase its online unique views

Interesting talking point.  I don't know how much the Hoodies cost DTD to make (and it may be worth tweaking the design to improve the effectiveness of an advertising tool), but I don't imagine they would have to work very often to pay for themselves (assuming you could get the right person to wear them for free of course).


I feel violated  :)

I think statement is right, not a hard conclusion to come too, considering that most people go to DTD to solely play poker.

However agree with Fett about badges, don't generally think anyone's really gives that much of a second thought about them.

Don't see how you can say people don't give a second thought about them if companies keep getting their logos on shirts.

If you get a big name to wear your brand, that is good advertising and it must work. New companies - take Ivey Poker- have only a group of Pros so far and they wear the badge. That is the company's marketing strategy at present, or at least a good chunk of it.

Your average Joe is less marketable, so the effectiveness of the badge is reduced (unless 50% of the room is wearing the badge and it's like a display of market power). The exception to this, in my humble opinion, is where the Joe is talkative, friendly, engaging and great to be at a table with.

Wearing a badge isn't a statement that you've made it as a player, it is giving you a responsibility to sell the brand and hoodie, sunglasses, scarf, ten minute decisions players are about as good a salesman as Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons.

To OP, however, I will say DTD is probably a smaller business than most of the badge providers and maybe that's just a decision they've taken. Can't be like they're not aware of the option.

Maybe change thread title to 'Tommy Bingham wants a free hoody!!!'

PS. If he's getting one, I want one  ;D

Is this where +1 would work..?? :)

We go abroad to play poker ~ once a month and I've always thought that we should be repping DTD each time when we go. Perhaps get our hotels flicked in in exchange for repping DTD all the time ;whistle;

It would be criminal to have a DTD reg on a big Vegas FT without a patch at the least imo.

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I mean, as a reg of DTD there is benefit to you just by wearing a patch.  It doesn't cost you anything, and whatever you can do to get more people to the club the better.  

Also, patching up the fish man whos gonna 6b shove K2o has to be high variance, not sure the club would take those kinds of risks.

Yeh I don't think DTD really give enough free stuff out. I mean come on guys, do a bit for UK poker please.

disclaimer: i'm joking

I think they do an amazing job of getting the recs in as they're always prepared to run / try something different (plus the tokens and super sats they give out / run get more guys into the club).  But I don't think patching some of the guys up who travel a bit more would do any harm.  As Tal pointed out though, they have to be the right person to do it as it is not a widely recognised brand and the person sporting the said paraphernalia would have to be engaging, friendly and get people talking.

Yeah. And thats why I mentioned regs at DTD. Compared to most 'Casinos' the player at DTD is a different breed. Mainly knowledge of the game and it's values is better represented by a DTD player. If it costs £1 and one person extra person signs up and deposits for a £30+3 satalite, it makes a difference.

Again my post WASNT the intention of having a DTD Team as such, just a number of players who will wear a little logo.

Btw, my new free DTD hoody fits like a dream. Thankyou.

The amount of traveling pros who will wear a patch for free, unless they are invested in the company, is minuscule to non existant. Believe me. A few years ago I was offering one of the more popular names from this forum 4 figures to wear a patch of one of the top 3 sites and he said no.

This of it like this. DTD probably aren't idiots, so if it was as easy as you're making it out, why haven't they already done it?

Also, like said previous, Iveys marketing budget must be massive. He is staking players and in retun they wear the brand.
DTD have many happy customers who I am sure would wear a little badge. For DTD, the cost is jst a badge, not paying for a £300 deepstack for someone to wear it.

Again, people missing the point. I am not on about Pros. I am not on about sponsoring Trickett for highrollers.
Simply, increasing awareness of a brand through the means of its happy customers.

If Rob Yong asked people, I am sure a large majority would have no issue.

DTD dont and probably will never attract big names or pros to play on their DTD. They don't need to.

Their market is recreational, pub and local players.

I'm a rec player. I bought a DTD hoodie on my fourth visit to the club maybe five years ago. I wear it everywhere I play EXCEPT at DTD. I wore it at the ISPT and I didn't see another DTD logo worn by anyone else. In fact I've only ever seen one other player with a DTD branded item on.

I originally bought it because:
a) I wanted a hoodie and this was good quality.
b) I really liked the club and was happy to be associated with it.

I play half my live and online poker at DTD but by no means would I be considered a frequent visitor by comparison with many. Having said that, I think of myself as a DTD player and I'm happy to advertise that association at my own expense for my own reasons. I'm quite surprised though, that given the support and appreciation shown to the club by so many on this forum, I don't see much evidence of that loyalty out on the felt in terms of DTD merch worn.

Sponsorship is a whole different issue.

While its a nice idea I think you'd find that the people who would be willing to wear a patch completely for free probably aren't the sort of players that are going to raise any worthwhile awareness for the club/site anyway. There's an opportunity cost to wearing a patch and most travelling pros, including DTD regs who love the club,  will be aware that a deep run in an event may earn them a few thousand selling a space on their shirt. This isn't as prevalent as it was 4 years ago, but it's still a consideration especially at the Series. You don't want to be in a position where you aren't asked the question from the man at Jack Links because you're already wearing someone else's patch as a favour. You might say that in that case you could remove the DTD patch in favour of the business deal, but then surely this makes the whole exercise even more pointless.


Wearing a Rebdull T or buying a Stars shirt is surely just terrible fashion sense more than anything else. When making initial reads at a new table I doubt I'm the only one who brackets randoms wearing merch as a fish until proven otherwise. I certainly wouldnt think, that random guy is wearing a DTD patch, must remember to give them a spin. Not having a pop at you here but I don't think its valuable to have randoms wear a club/site badge for the club/site and way way less than 90% of players worth their salt would be willing to do it completely for free (and why should they imo)

Very good post. Thankyou for your input.
Totally agree. :)

I have to say that on this occasion, I completely agree with Mr Bingham.  DTD isn't competing in a global market where it will get players from all over the world to come down and play a £300 deepstack.  It just needs some locals who travel around to wear some patches and tell people at other events about it.  DTD are consistently trying to stretch what can be achieved and I would have no problems with sticking a patch on for the club as its still my favorite place to play live pokerz and from a personal point of view want the club to be successful and attract as many players as possible.

Going back to the point in the OP.  I wear the patches for no direct financial gain and clearly Tommy noticed them and went off and did some staking.  Just sezzin.

fair enough. I thought the OP was suggesting that the travelling DTD regs (off the top of my head I would assume he means people like Alex G and Mitch) wear a patch as a favour/out of love for the club. That's fine and admirable if they'd want to do that, but I'm just pointing out that there is an opportunity cost to the player that I don't think OP thought about. It's definitely not a case of 'I'm not wearing a patch so it's no skin off my nose to wear one'

But the flipside to them offering to wear a patch would be to attract more players to their regular club.  Its a symbiotic relationship imo, it's not just the club who benefit from the advertising.

The thing about patching up players is it's not actually that valuable right now.

What used to happen is that poker was on TV so companies were very keen to spend lot of money to make sure their name was on anybody at the table. Now it's not on TV, who cares if someone on your table is wearing a patch?

It's great that you signed up because you saw someone at a live game wearing a DTD patch and you asked them about it and they spent time telling you about it. In fact, that's fantastic!

Is anybody in Vegas going to ask Alex Goulder who DTD are because they saw him wearing a patch and act on that information? Not unless Alex takes time and explains why playing on the DTD software would be good for them. If 10 people ask Alex in a day and he spends 5 minutes explaining the site to them, how many sign ups do you think that will generate? It's non zero but it's close. That's an hour of Alex's time though.

If Alex makes a final table, that's another story. Hitting an FT/getting a bracelet picture might get some sign ups, but now there's a massive opportunity cost to Alex because he could be wearing a Jack Links patch for $4k or something.

PS when I say Alex Goulder I mean any decent travelling DTD reg as outlined in OP... and when I say Jack Links I mean any company who thinks patching up players in poker tournaments is +EV. I have absolutely no idea if Jack Links do this sort of thing but goddam it I'd wear their patch for free jerky all day

Reuctio ad absurdum ITT.  We are talking about the UK poker market and the pro's who travel to different venues around the UK.  DTD does not work on an international level at the minute and would not be relevant to 7000 international players in the WSOP ME.  That doesn't make it irrelevant in events like the GPS, GUKPT, UKIPT's and other UK based events not hosted at DTD.


Vs the cost of a patch, I would suggest that it would be massively +ev for the club and as such, the regs who play there.  If a patch costs 50p and one guy signs up and plays a £5.50 feeder then were ballin already.  Not to mention the money they spend when they eventually satty something and arrive at the club.


I'm assuming thats an hour of time at a live poker table where he would have been rushed off his feet doing other things?

Sorry I thought you were talking about asking players to wear patches for free at the series and at EPTs.

Reuctio ad absurdum, I like that hehe

I think you're wrong on those last two points though. The maths isn't as simple as you suggest in the second point. I'd actually estimate that you've overshot the cost of a patch but I'm not sure, it might be 10p who knows. They only physically last once or twice at a push. Is Joe Bloggs gonna get a new sign up every time he plays a side event at the GUKPT Luton, I doubt it. Do DTD want to be sending out 100 patches to people a week?


On the third point, it's not just at the poker table, it's at the bar, and walking around - there's definitely less down time if you're wearing a company patch. At the poker table the company is paying you to share some of the brain space you would ideally be spending focussing on the game.

One reason I would be disinclined to ask players to wear my brand for free if I ran a site is that it could very easily devalue the brand. I'd be relying on random people not to get in a fight at the pub/ do a bunch of drugs/ be terrible ambassadors while wearing my brand. I also would want to avoid a situation where I'd be saying yes I'd like you to wear my hoodie, but not you, to customers that I value the same

Yeh I mean, I'm not suggesting you start handing them out in the street or anything.  But a select few regs who the club wouldn't mind associating themselves with (obviously as Tal said, it has to be the right person).
I kind of disagree with this, I'm 'somewhat' of a talker at the table (I have been told I never f**king shut up!!!!) but it doesn't mean I am any less focused on what I'm doing.  I usually don't talk about other things whilst playing a hand but it's quite easy to talk and follow what's going on outside of that.  Conversations usually go something along the lines of:

"What are the patches about?"
"They're for insertbrandhere.com"
"What do they do?"
"Well they do x,y & z, go on the website and have a look.  Followed by more Somerville conversational bollocks..."

It literally costs you nothing and you know that theres a chance that someone will go away and least have a look at the website.  100 patches a week is wayyyy over the top.  If you could get 4 or 5 guys who would be happy representing your brand, and they play an away leg say once a week (for argument) you would be looking 52 patches a year @ £0.50 per patch???  Might even work out cheaper to give them a hoody after all.  You're not alienating your existing customers, I don't refuse to play on stars cause they wont make a member of team pro.

I would fall in to the category of a 'recreational' player so my twopenneth.

I see many players wearing patches of some kind...I read them and simply assume they are experienced players who know what they are doing so (rightly or wrongly) watch their game more closely and try to adjust mine.

I have never gone home and looked at the website they advertise, I just use their badge as a " I know what I am doing" sticker....and a bit of an ego booster for the player wearing it.

If players wanted to wear it then far enough I just don't see them as doing an awful lot.

Most pointless thread in a while. This ship has sailed. I'm sure DTD would already be sponsoring players/regs if they thought it'd benefit

You gotta pass your boring Saturday's with nothing else on the menu other than coursework somehow!  Little bit harsh though, given the amount of MU threads that keep popping up.

I have never feel compelled to speak to someone wearing a patch. If anything I am pretty happy when I see an unknown patched up to the nines

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Its a weird one.

I run a poker podcast and try to do the best to "market" it at poker events.  Sadly we have zero budget, so homemade "patches" are used as we cant currently afford the costs.  We also enter teams in national poker team events and get as many logos on the players as poss.  As presenter/founder ill wear the logo everywhere i can to help push the brand.  This prob is helped that i am one of those chatty/jokey players at the table and find it easy to get into convos regarding the podcast as much as poss.

However, i would say, that i have a lot more convos started at "smaller" events ie APAT, than i do when playing GPS', UKIPTs etc.  Think its more of an interest to a recreational player, and thats precisely our target audience.  We are also lucky to have people that will wear our "patches" in any tourny they play, for free, as they are willing to help push the brand.  Obviously our next move is to get some patches made up (bloody expensive mind!)

As for DTD, im pretty sure 80% of UK poker players know about DTD... i mean its the premier card room in the UK.  So is there any value in patching people up?  I suppose if people are doing it for free, there is no harm, bar the costs of making the patches.  Im sure DTDs marketing team have looked at it before, but with the lack of televised poker in the UK, i cant see it really breaching a massive audience.....

Hahaha! You are too awesome Tom

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badges and patches aren't eye catching enough..

The problem with DTD patching is that I feel like pretty much everyone that plays poker in any kind of UK event where a patched player would be playing, already knows about DTD the live venue in Nottingham therefore I dont think the impact on the live club from patching players would be minimal.

It might be more useful to advertise their online skin but I know that I personally see players patched and can be sitting with them all day and never actually read their patch, remember what it is or take any interest in what the site is and what deals they offer.  I might be in the minority with this approach but I dont think I am.

DTD might be in a more unique position than most to get people to willingly wear patches for free but Im pretty sure the general attitude with patches is that people wont wear them unless there is something in it for them.

Blonde had some patches that people wore at events, would be interested to know how many people signed up and contributed to the forum after seeing a player patched and taking the time to find out what blonde was.

The next step is for the massage girls to get a patch somewhere eyecatching for the local nightclub. Definitely would work in MarBella

Its not sponsoring! Its giving a guy a £20 hoody or a badge on a shirt. They spend £££ on SEO and online marketing when it is not targetted. I totally understand not all people dont take notice of them. Confused.com advert watched once has no effect.. But constantly appearing it does.
The thing is.. Alot of people are in a bubble. They don't see the pub players, the players at there local club or snooker hall. ALOT of poker players/gamblers do not know of DTD. Fact.

Secondly.. People are happy to make unrealistic points and opinions about problems with structure, getting up a for a water or the fact there was a shit in the toilet and someone didn't flush.
Not many people take the time to make a point to increase customers to a very good club.
They just advise of personal changes, DTD do it. Then someone else moans. So you go round in circles.

No it is not our job to advise on marketing or plans for DTD, but I just want to club to do well and wanted to make a point.
Based on some points people have made, it is therefore useless for Nike, Ralph Lauren and many other brands to put their logo on their shirt. Based on the concept, branding, logos and repetition does not work.

Douche

Dtd branded glass bottled water 100% recyclabe, can see it now!

Why pointless topic? It's just a suggestions . It's never pointless . If I can afford it , I will let my mate/friends wear my branded T-Shirt for poker . Obviously it's going to be Hugo Boss Shirt with my Chips' shop logos in it . ISIT

IMO posh boy

Would wear them for free kebabs

Deal..

+1

Another fat f****r. Lol

Yo

Thanks Tommy. Interesting thread, here is the cold hard facts;

Of course we would love travelling players to wear DTD patches they cost £1.25 each, no fkn brainer! We already have a promotion in place for the Scalie Tour, I think we had 25 players in patches at the last GPS. In 6 years only a very very very few DTD players have offered to wear DTD merchandise/or do something for DTD for nothing in return, I can only name a few off the top of my head, the likes of Rastafish, Lil Dave, Ian Gascoigne, Martin Frey, Wadey, Chinese Frankie, Bookie Jim (sorry if I missed you, sure there is a couple more)

However, I have loads and loads and loads of requests from players that go like this "I am going to x, If I wear a DTD patch/merchandise will you a) pay my buy-in b) pay my hotel and travel c) stick me in events at DTD d) give me x). That's just the truth guys, however I do know and have many personal friends in poker that would do this for me, I asked players to wear patches at EPT's when we were promoting the CPP, Roberto, Sam, JP, Ben, Sly, all the guys did this, I find the top pros are pretty cool about it unless they are sponsored.

As a rule of thumb, the more "reggy/grinderish" players - the less the player will do favours for "nowt", I understand this thou - because these players are working hard to make a living from the game - so why do "owt for nowt". There are exceptions of course, but I would say 90% of reg's/grinders would not wear a DTD patch for free and - why should they? I am happy with the Scalie Tour promo, players wear our patch and get rewarded if they make the final or win it, seems a fair deal, win win for us both and targeted at recreational players.


Cheers Rob

I'm pretty sure all the "reggy/grinderish" players that I know that play in DTD everyday would wear a DTD patch for nothing, in fact - they'd be happy that you'd asked them to represent your club. I PMed you asking about wanting to rep ISPT and promote them abroad/nationwide, didn't even consider asking for anything in return - I'm very happy to represent the club that I love and that gives me so much.

Forgive me if I'm being paranoid but you did miss me off the list of players that would do something for nothing and I'm in the group of "reggy/grinderish players that make a living from the game" which is less than 5 players who play at DTD more or less every day it's open - all of which wouldn't think twice about wearing a DTD patch for free, so I really don't know who you mean by this. Yeh Mitch would probably try and wangle some free food out of it, but that's the case with anything with him ;)

Apology accepted ! Obvious you would forget one of your oldest clients ! X

I have always worn DTD hoddies & polo shirts for nothing !
I know I don't travel like you guys ....but it's just like saying thank you to the club IMO

Anyone else think poker branded clothing is a bit shite? Other than sponsored players obv.

Rob, Cheers for a reply. Is nice for the owner to personally write a reply and not a represetative. Shows you do listen to ideas customers have. Thx.
I honestly know there are many pokerplayers/gamblers/rich drunks who dont know of DTD. If they do, it's that club at Nottingham, nothing more. DTD and its concept of a card room only is so unique. Personaly and being honest, when I was 18 I was intimentated by going to a casino to play poker. Honestly, really felt uncomfortablr of the 'idea' of playing in that enviroment. Silly as it sounds, that was my view. A friend let me know they were going to a poker room in Nottingham. Explained it is all DEALER DEALT (no players fixing decks) and a controlled room. £30 for a proper torney! In a proper card room! With other poker players! £800 for first! Sounded too good and because of it all I was comfortable in going.

Since my time of playing live, I now play 95% of tornaments at your club, playing 95% of deepstacks and festival events. I live in the middle of Nottingham, Luton and Northampton. Aspers, Gala, G..But I choose your club.

By word of mouth, I have introduced over 30 new players to the club. 10ish consistant players, the rest recreational.
Again, alot of players are in a bubble. Nothing wrong at all with that! It just means like already mentioned, they may not go to 5p/10p home games. Go to a £10 freezeout at a pub or their local British Legion! 40 dont sound alot. But if just ONE passes on the message to their other friends, you have a circle of word of mouth.

These players are your market. They have disposable incomes.. Every month. So gaining new recreational customers is key!
The badge? Alot of people say they dont pay attention.. The fact is the people iin pubs and clubs do! They ask, interested in it. Its an ice breaker to.

Totally agree. I am sure aload would gladly wear them.
The more people in the club playing cash, the better it is for the better players and RAKE. The mote sataliters online, generally the softer the fields.

Anyway, as you can tell when I have a view I am very pasionate and annoyin about defending it!
I will leave it with DTD and Rob to see and review.

But again, there are sometimes negative points about structure, free water, dirty chips and more.. I just believe trying to give something back to a 'second home' is beneficial to all parties. Owners, staff, regs, recreational players and new customers.

On a diet at the mo to get into this and wear some small XXL gear!

I used to have a DTD hoodie that I wore pretty much every day for walking the dog.

I ended up lending it to a young lady who needed something warm to wear on her walk to the bus stop one morning.

I haven't seen it or the girl since. Clearly she thought poker branded clothing was a bit shite.

Forget the hoody, what she prob thought was a bit shite was being told to gtfo to the freezin cold bus stop when she woke up. What a casanova!

Started playing poker a few years ago in the nuts poker league then moved onto APAT ( which I still play regulary )
While at a tourney seen a guy wearing a blonde patch and had a chat
looked up blonde site when got home and been visiting though not comentting since then
hadn't heard of blonde until then
really enjoy all the talk and info on site and the friendly banter LOl

I think it's a good idea and that it would certainly drive numbers up live and online.

I wouldn't wear a hoodie but I'd wear a patch for free (for DTD) as long as it wasn't one of those patches that leaves a permanent mark on the clothing after you take it off. It's no skin off my back and adds a certain presence at the table.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't believe he IS staking them in return for wearing an Ivey Poker patch.

They wear that patch, I believe, in readiness for (if) when Ivey Poker goes live, & then they'll get a deal, I guess.

 

No 'here's £20 for a cab love'?

Matt Russell - Ice Cold Playa.

Standard bus fare and a 'thank you'.

Never been asked before but would happily wear a DTD badge on my travels playing poker and I play more live tourneys than most.

I think most regs would happily wear a badge for you Rob and ask for nothing in return. Obviously there will always be one or two or try to squeeze every penny out of a situation like this but for me DTD is where I learned my trade and without it I would not be where I am today and enjoying my life like I am today, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this.

Ofcourse if I made the FT of the main event and got offered $10billion to wear a stars patch I wouldn't be able to refuse. I would make sure I sneaked the DTD patch on there too though and if they wouldn't allow that I would just get a felt tip pen and write DTD in bold print on my forehead. :-)

Thanks to all for offering to do this.

I will order 1000 badges and make them available for players behind the DTD cash desk, hopefully the stock will be all gone in 30 days!

It would be nice if players could post the odd picture of them wearing the DTD patch around the world somewhere, we could make a collection of photos and put them on our web site.

Cheers Aces

You'll get quite a few odd pictures I'd expect :D

Are they allowed to wear poker-branded clothing at school?

Maybe the reason you haven't seen her since is she is scared you might ask for the hoody back?

Not even an autographed copy of your book "A Snake On The River"?

A bunch of us are off to Vegas on Sunday. Would be cool if they arrived before then then we could take them out there with us. Planning to win the main event see...

Would love a DTD patch, would go well on my Team Pony 'TM'  hoody

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No way, travel expenses are included in the cost!

Delivered in a Jim Bowen style ?

Here you go love, bfh.

you look like someone, just can't remember who

give me a month, will remember who

i think its a good idea tommy, why are people so negative about it lol. to say most dont care about branding and badges is silly(i think) they may not like it cos sometimes people look like walking billboards but it works surely.
im actually suprised DTD doesnt do this already. they obviously want to promote the club and brand DTD in the right way so have to be very selective on who wears what (rules me out lol ).
but i think for example a badge like ISPT did,would be nice and you get one if you make a day2 of a deepstack for example.
maybe they could look at doing some funky hoodies or shirts. it wouldnt cost a fortune and a good way to promote the club, if your travelling abroad to play any major events then could contact DTD for badges or hoodie. i know they do some but kinda plain if im aloud to moan ;)

the Scalie tour promo's have been a great idea btw :)

Probably the same guy I am thinking of ! The guy from CRIMEWATCH ?

can i reserve one? good idea simon :)

Please can I reserve one as well??

Please can I have 8 . Thanks

@TopTen
That one's been done before by Tighty, could you not find a picture of George Clooney?

Well that doesn't surprise me, Tighty is the master of the "lookalikes"

George Clooney???? I was thinking more like "Boy George" lol