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Title: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: Jables20 on June 18, 2013, 02:08:02 AM
Full Tilt, 170/340 blinds, 25 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players

MP3: 27,377 (80.5 bb)
CO: 13,826 (40.7 bb)
BTN: 4,186 (12.3 bb)
Hero (SB): 22,372 (65.8 bb)
BB: 11,780 (34.6 bb)
UTG+2: 17,059 (50.2 bb)
MP1: 23,542 (69.2 bb)
MP2: 19,523 (57.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qh Qc
2 folds, MP2 raises to 748, 3 folds, Hero raises to 1,950, BB folds, MP2 calls 1,202

Flop: (4,440) 4h Tc 9d (2 players)
Hero bets 2,200, MP2 calls 2,200

Turn: (8,840) 8s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets 4,025, Hero ?

Firstly, I'm not sure I love my cbet on the flop. Think Check/call might be better.

As played do you prefer check/jam, check/call or check/fold turn? Player is breaking even over 2.5k games and was playing 19/16/2 over 100 hands fwiw


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: George2Loose on June 18, 2013, 02:20:43 AM
Check/call and try to get to showdown. Depends how capable villain is. Don't think u can just c/f here


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: The Squid on June 18, 2013, 06:04:51 AM
We have outs to the nuts and he can easily be value betting/protecting worse. Start by calling.


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: Nit Tendencies on June 18, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
Yeah I agree with Sammy, I'd definitely start by calling but proceeding with caution.


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: TL900 on June 18, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
Calling feels like the only play, c/f most rivers I would imagine too vs seemingly average reg type villian who probably wont be bluffing v much otr


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: Nit Tendencies on June 18, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
Also, I do like your idea for c/calling the flop. This is a board where we are expected to c/f a reasonable amount because it hits his perceived range harder than our own, so having a strong checking range is important. He is going to bet almost every hand he's peeled with here (incorrectly) so checking allows us to really exploit the villain.


Title: Re: 10 off the money in the Multi Fifty FTP, QQ OOP in 3b pot on T9x8 0_o
Post by: Pinchop73 on June 18, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Check jamming turn is not a great idea in this spot, our hand is too strong. Same reasons why I don't want to fold. Way too many broadway hands in oppo's range to fold imo. Villains range also contains set combos, but they're far outweighed by AK/AQ/KQ/AJ type combos, which a villain smelling a light3b on the turn will bet.

Call and re evaluate river, it'll be 1.2spr so lots of play in this hand yet.