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Title: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: mondatoo on June 18, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
For those that have never seen it, how it works is you take an item in to sell, there are four dealers who will ask you questions about it and you can ask them as well thus can gauge interest.

They then return to their rooms and you then have to say which order you wish to see the dealers in.

So assuming dealer:

1 seems super interested
2 seems fairly interested
3 seems not very interested
4 seems to have no interest

Importantly, if you turn down an offer, once you leave that room you can never go back to it. Also they don't know which order you're seeing them in.

What order would you visit them in ?



Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: bobAlike on June 18, 2013, 08:11:41 PM
For those that have never seen it, how it works is you take an item in to sell, there are four dealers who will ask you questions about it and you can ask them as well thus can gauge interest.

They then return to their rooms and you then have to say which order you wish to see the dealers in.

So assuming dealer:

1 seems super interested
2 seems fairly interested
3 seems not very interested
4 seems to have no interest

Importantly, if you turn down an offer, once you leave that room you can never go back to it. Also they don't know which order you're seeing them in.

What order would you visit them in ?



I would do 4321. Seems safest bet to me.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Laxie on June 18, 2013, 08:21:40 PM
For those that have never seen it, how it works is you take an item in to sell, there are four dealers who will ask you questions about it and you can ask them as well thus can gauge interest.

They then return to their rooms and you then have to say which order you wish to see the dealers in.

So assuming dealer:

1 seems super interested
2 seems fairly interested
3 seems not very interested
4 seems to have no interest

Importantly, if you turn down an offer, once you leave that room you can never go back to it. Also they don't know which order you're seeing them in.

What order would you visit them in ?



I would do 4321. Seems safest bet to me.

Very definitely ^^^this^^^


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: celtic on June 18, 2013, 08:25:55 PM
4321 was my first thought. Seems too simple though.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: TightEnd on June 18, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
No the trick is to see the most interested one in the middle. Under no circumstances must he be seen last, or know he us being,seen last. Game theory, you need some leverage. 2431 or 1432


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: bobAlike on June 18, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
No the trick is to see the most interested one in the middle. Under no circumstances must he be seen last, or know he us being,seen last. Game theory, you need some leverage. 2431 or 1432

But they don't know what order they are being seen in??


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: TightEnd on June 18, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
15 mins per room max, they have a rough idea and often use it as a negotiating tactic on the show


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Delboy on June 18, 2013, 08:35:12 PM
4,1,3,2

Edit: didn't see tighty' s post before I answered lol


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: mondatoo on June 18, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
Tightly has a massive advantage what with him being one of the dealers :P



Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: DaveShoelace on June 18, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
Hate to say it, but the show needs Jeff Salmon back.



Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: The Camel on June 18, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
I can't see any reason for having 4 anywhere but first.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Woodsey on June 18, 2013, 10:54:08 PM
As a salesperson who has never seen the programme, snap sell to number 1 at a price we are both happy and stuff the others lol. Then move on to the next potential customer, time management ftw.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Patonius2000 on June 19, 2013, 05:58:26 AM
1 first and tell him he's first


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: MintTrav on June 19, 2013, 06:49:09 AM
Watched an episode of this last night to see what it's about and, tbh, I don't get this programme.

I am intrigued by the popular 4321 strategy and would like to see a rationale for it, rather than just a list. If you get a decent offer along the way, what will you do? Take it and drop the most interested person? If you reject it, what was the point of seeing that one at all? Don't get Tighty's strategy either - the sequences he listed seem to contradict his text, so far as I can see.

I would just go to the one who is interested and work down the sequence 1234, because that puts the most likely to give you a decent offer first and so on. If you don't get one, move down until you do. Accept any reasonable offer, cos it's only going to get less likely as you go on.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: paulhouk03 on June 19, 2013, 08:06:55 AM
Depends on  ur knowledge of the product and its market.

If u know about the product I would use the 4321


And prob do 4213 if u know nothing about the product



Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: typhoon13 on June 19, 2013, 08:29:25 AM
One of the very few TV progs i watch.

If you have got anything of any substance just put it into a specialist auction exposing it to a wider audience, that will

find its true value without having the risk of getting severely shafted.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Graham C on June 19, 2013, 10:35:38 AM
2 1 3 4

See the fairly keen first and let him know so he'll put in a decent offer to make you not carry on.  If he doesn't give what you want, pop in to see the super keen but tell him you saw 4 first.   I don't see what difference it makes when you see 4, if he's not interested he's not interested - ideally you don't want to go and see him.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: TightEnd on June 19, 2013, 10:40:06 AM
I was mobile when posting last night, so the order my post made no sense

1 seems super interested
2 seems fairly interested
3 seems not very interested
4 seems to have no interest

You cannot leave 1 til last. Game theory, you need leverage.

The dealers have a rough idea of which order they are being seen in from time elapsed, so leave 1 til last and you don't maximise price

the best results I have seen put the two most interested in the middle, trying to drive the most interested hard

those who go 4,3,2,1 leave themselves nowhere to go on the last two

so 4,1,2,3

Be prepared to accept a lower price from 2 if you can't squeeze 1


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: typhoon13 on June 19, 2013, 10:43:26 AM

Yeah but sometimes the dealer makes out they are not interested so you go see them first, when really they are very very interested, cunning f*kers.



Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: TightEnd on June 19, 2013, 10:44:18 AM

Yeah but sometimes the dealer makes out they are not interested so you go see them first, when really they are very very interested, cunning f*kers.



this is true

my post assumes you have a clue about who is most interested

can't recall the dealers names of the top of my head but the rude fella is a master at negotiating deception


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: typhoon13 on June 19, 2013, 10:46:18 AM

Yeah but sometimes the dealer makes out they are not interested so you go see them first, when really they are very very interested, cunning f*kers.



this is true

my post assumes you have a clue about who is most interested

can't recall the dealers names of the top of my head but the rude fella is a master at negotiating deception

They are all rude, arrogant rich people.

Thats why we like watching


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Tommy Bingham on June 19, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
4 - See why they not interested and use that in your pitch before another dealer asks.
2 - Get realistic valuation on it and push them for top price to see.
3 - Pointless viewing, only use for extra TV time.
1 - Put everything together and go for it.

Tbh, in previous episodes, the person who is quietest is a good show to see 3rd or last. As they sometimes do it to make sure you actually pic them first and act like they are (number 4 in this case) not intersted.
And then boom.. they really really want it.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on June 19, 2013, 03:56:41 PM
Just put the item on Ebay ffs..........why limit yourself to 4 potential buyers??

Not seen it, but this was my snap answer, sounds a bit daft does all this to be honest.


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Redsgirl on June 28, 2013, 08:53:08 PM
Nothing to do with strategy but I just saw a women sell a 'painting' which her sister had created by ingesting coloured soy milk and then vomiting onto a canvas.
Unbelievable!
When asked if she was taking the mick she replied, 'No, its something my sister felt deep inside her' ;dingdell;


Title: Re: Four rooms strategy ?
Post by: Graham C on June 29, 2013, 03:32:21 PM
Saw that too, what a load of rubbish.  Can't believe that guy paid 950 for it! Limited edition, only 8 produced.    Should have thought of that idea in my younger days when out the snakebites!

Art has a lot to answer for, so much is rubbish that crazy people seem to read something into when theres nothing to be read.