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Title: total hand wonderings... Post by: jgcblack on June 29, 2013, 12:36:49 AM http://wt.ag/125m4qs Range for him getting to the river? Options on each street? Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: SuuPRlim on June 29, 2013, 03:07:24 AM I think this deep IP you should raise the flop and bomb off personally. This flops hits your range for opening btn and calling a 3bet WAY harder than a SB 3bet 180 big blinds deep, whats he gonna do with JJ-AA just get it for 12x the pot on the flop?
Also think you should raise the turn and defo call the river. Most of the time he isn't 3betting 33 and 55 (or 77) and if he has K7 K5 or K3s then you are ridic unlucky he could have KK ofc and again that 1 combo so spose he 3bets 77 from the blinds every time that 7 combo's you lose too. The only boats you'll ever have is 55 33 and 77 and that isn't enough of a range to call the river, so sticking the NF in there seems logical. People might think that Kx is a more appropriate bluff catcher than a flush but the difference is he COULD have 3bet a J8dd type hand and be value betting now, whereas a random K would be a pure bluff catcher and it's pretty much impossible once the Kh rivers for you to have a single K in your range on the end. Gotta call this one imo. Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: jgcblack on June 29, 2013, 03:38:50 AM I think this deep IP you should raise the flop and bomb off personally. This flops hits your range for opening btn and calling a 3bet WAY harder than a SB 3bet 180 big blinds deep, whats he gonna do with JJ-AA just get it for 12x the pot on the flop? Also think you should raise the turn and defo call the river. Most of the time he isn't 3betting 33 and 55 (or 77) and if he has K7 K5 or K3s then you are ridic unlucky he could have KK ofc and again that 1 combo so spose he 3bets 77 from the blinds every time that 7 combo's you lose too. The only boats you'll ever have is 55 33 and 77 and that isn't enough of a range to call the river, so sticking the NF in there seems logical. People might think that Kx is a more appropriate bluff catcher than a flush but the difference is he COULD have 3bet a J8dd type hand and be value betting now, whereas a random K would be a pure bluff catcher and it's pretty much impossible once the Kh rivers for you to have a single K in your range on the end. Gotta call this one imo. This is exactly what I thought as I timebanked... Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: SuuPRlim on June 29, 2013, 11:12:07 AM I think this deep IP you should raise the flop and bomb off personally. This flops hits your range for opening btn and calling a 3bet WAY harder than a SB 3bet 180 big blinds deep, whats he gonna do with JJ-AA just get it for 12x the pot on the flop? Also think you should raise the turn and defo call the river. Most of the time he isn't 3betting 33 and 55 (or 77) and if he has K7 K5 or K3s then you are ridic unlucky he could have KK ofc and again that 1 combo so spose he 3bets 77 from the blinds every time that 7 combo's you lose too. The only boats you'll ever have is 55 33 and 77 and that isn't enough of a range to call the river, so sticking the NF in there seems logical. People might think that Kx is a more appropriate bluff catcher than a flush but the difference is he COULD have 3bet a J8dd type hand and be value betting now, whereas a random K would be a pure bluff catcher and it's pretty much impossible once the Kh rivers for you to have a single K in your range on the end. Gotta call this one imo. This is exactly what I thought as I timebanked... I think raising the flop is the clear, clear play btw, just calling and then calling blank turns is pretty weak stuff imo Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: jgcblack on June 29, 2013, 02:20:16 PM My plan on low turns (<Ts) was to start making life pretty hard for the guy while still having a pretty decent draw.
Only problem I have with raising flop is I narrow his continuing range and spew range massively. I want his AQ to be putting more money into the pot and folding to my turn/ river aggression rather than fold now and I only get called by his 10's+, AK type hands.... with potentially an 'obvious' draw...? Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: SuuPRlim on June 29, 2013, 05:39:14 PM too complicated imo
Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: dreenie on June 29, 2013, 06:53:00 PM too complicated imo +1 to this .5/.10 up to .50.1 is really simple, just use simple strategy and u will win long term. Obviously when you step up through the levels, u will need to learn how to adapt. Sometimes when I read your hh, I'm left scratching my head as to why all the questions tbh. Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: TL900 on June 29, 2013, 07:41:39 PM show me a winner buddy
Title: Re: total hand wonderings... Post by: pleno1 on June 29, 2013, 10:53:17 PM Raise flop we have two overs and a fd and he will call with worse or fold better later and of we get it in then wahoo
A splayed just call ofc? |