Title: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 05:49:29 PM Anyone ever been given a private parking ticket by ParkingEye? They sent me a charge notice after I broke down at London Gateway (M1) and had to stay there for over the two-hour period. I didn't notice any signs, but apparently I should have purchased a ticket at this point, and now they're charging me £60 (then £100).
Searching Google it seems as though there's no pressure to accept appeals (either by P.E. or POPLA) for mitigating circumstance like mine, so I'm just trying to work out if it's worth the hassle. Anyone know what I can expect from them? Is it just letters, or are they going to bother me with phone calls and door-knocking? If the appeal is rejected, do I just pay up the £100 if I don't fancy court and then that's it? Not sure how it works. Really annoying 'cos it was midnight and the place was virtually empty, and I even ended up destroying the car a week later so would be paying a penalty for a vehicle that doesn't even exist. Tilt. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: celtic on July 01, 2013, 05:52:44 PM Have you called them?
My plan would be to call them and explain it was broken down, you didn't have any money on you to purchase a ticket. Tell them you can provide proof it had broken down etc. if that doesn't work then they're a bunch of *****. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: redarmi on July 01, 2013, 05:57:24 PM Just letters. Had a very similar situation once and after doing some research I decided against paying and they just let it go after a while. Apparently they will pursue you longer if you do appeal but I'm not an expert.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 06:02:37 PM £60 for it to just go away is tempting. If I could be sure that my appeal wouldn't be rejected then I would refuse to pay. But £100 and a load of hassle for two or three months isn't floating my boat at the moment.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: tikay on July 01, 2013, 06:22:45 PM Pay the £60, move on.
We have better things to do with our life than get stressed over a £60 parking thing. You & Dana are like Posh & Becks, loaded, right? Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2013, 06:22:47 PM Might be +EV to pay the £60 early than appeal and then be faced with letters, waiting, etc., and then £100 to pay instead.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: ripple11 on July 01, 2013, 06:24:08 PM The general rule for these "invoices"...not legal tickets ,is to ignore, don't engage at all with them.
I did it in the past and nothing happened. Since then a "new law" seems to be quoted by these dodgy companies to scare you to pay up......but nothing seems to have changed re advise: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4312425&page=1 Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2013, 06:31:17 PM The general rule for these "invoices"...not legal tickets ,is to ignore, don't engage at all with them. I did it in the past and nothing happened. Since then a "new law" seems to be quoted by these dodgy companies to scare you to pay up......but nothing seems to have changed re advise: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4312425&page=1 I thought it had: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/private-parking-penalties/ Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: outragous76 on July 01, 2013, 06:36:55 PM I got one 12 months ago
Took the advice to ignore it and heard nothing If you don't contact them, I'm not sure how they can justify having your details (how did they get them?) Ignore it and take the spin. What's the worst that can happen? They just prey on people paying them! Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 06:41:05 PM I got one 12 months ago Took the advice to ignore it and heard nothing If you don't contact them, I'm not sure how they can justify having your details (how did they get them?) Ignore it and take the spin. What's the worst that can happen? They just prey on people paying them! Purchased from the DVLA. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2013, 06:42:53 PM Guy, your incident would have happened before the change in the law:
"A new Law from 1st October 2012 (part of the Protection of Freedoms Act) changed liability for parking on private land from the driver of the vehicle to the vehicle’s registered keeper, unless the keeper clearly identifies who was driving the car at the time." Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 06:55:05 PM Guy, your incident would have happened before the change in the law: "A new Law from 1st October 2012 (part of the Protection of Freedoms Act) changed liability for parking on private land from the driver of the vehicle to the vehicle’s registered keeper, unless the keeper clearly identifies who was driving the car at the time." I don't understand the relevance of this. I was both the driver and registered keeper, as was Guy by the sounds of it. Have I missed something? Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: ripple11 on July 01, 2013, 06:55:46 PM From figures compiled by the British Parking Association, over the last year, 1,800,000 Private Parking Charge tickets were issued. Of these, 31% went unpaid, leaving 1,242,000 paid.
figures submitted by the BPA were that between 2% and 5% of tickets issued resulted in court action. This equates to between 36,000 and 90,000 of the 1,800,000 tickets issued. But a Freedom of Information request to the Ministry of Justice shows that, in fact, members of the BPA registered only 845 small claims court actions, of which only 49 cases actually went to a contested hearing in the small claims court. Interesting stats from the honest john site quoted by Kin. A lot of info and debate can br found, but I think the odds are well on the side for ignoring. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2013, 06:57:33 PM Guy, your incident would have happened before the change in the law: "A new Law from 1st October 2012 (part of the Protection of Freedoms Act) changed liability for parking on private land from the driver of the vehicle to the vehicle’s registered keeper, unless the keeper clearly identifies who was driving the car at the time." I don't understand the relevance of this. I was both the driver and registered keeper, as was Guy by the sounds of it. Have I missed something? In the past, you could say "I wasn't driving it" - and they wouldn't be able to prove you were, and they couldn't fine you for just being the owner. Now they can fine the owner, who it appears has to pay, unless they name the person who was driving. That's how I read it anyway Might still be able to ignore it, and they'll go away. I'd speak to someone who has legal knowledge though about that. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 01, 2013, 06:57:50 PM I wouldn't pay the fuckers. Scamming tnucs. Try consumer action group website for all the relevant info. I payed once and then realised I was the tnuc for paying. Since then I've had 6 parking charge notices and ignored them all.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 06:58:02 PM From figures compiled by the British Parking Association, over the last year, 1,800,000 Private Parking Charge tickets were issued. Of these, 31% went unpaid, leaving 1,242,000 paid. figures submitted by the BPA were that between 2% and 5% of tickets issued resulted in court action. This equates to between 36,000 and 90,000 of the 1,800,000 tickets issued. But a Freedom of Information request to the Ministry of Justice shows that, in fact, members of the BPA registered only 845 small claims court actions, of which only 49 cases actually went to a contested hearing in the small claims court. Interesting stats from the honest john site quoted by Kin. A lot of info and debate can br found, but I think the odds are well on the side for ignoring. Instead of appealing via ParkingEye and then POPLA? Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 01, 2013, 06:58:45 PM BTW the last one I ignored was only 4 months ago.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 01, 2013, 06:59:22 PM Don't ever contact them, not even to appeal.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: Dino on July 01, 2013, 07:51:58 PM My nephew received a ticket from them after his car broke down in a local supermarket,he was there for 3 hours till the RAC fitted a new alternator belt. He got the RAC to send him a copy of the job sheet which he forwarded to parking eye with an explanation,they wrote back saying under the circumstances they would cancel the charge.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 07:53:48 PM My nephew received a ticket from them after his car broke down in a local supermarket,he was there for 3 hours till the RAC fitted a new alternator belt. He got the RAC to send him a copy of the job sheet which he forwarded to parking eye with an explanation,they wrote back saying under the circumstances they would cancel the charge. I didn't use the RAC. My father helped me out and then tailed me home. I do have a signed copy of the destruction certificate though. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2013, 07:59:40 PM Been thinking about this. Even if they have the law on their side, it's surely going to cost them more than £100 to pursue someone who doesn't respond to them, etc.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 01, 2013, 08:11:05 PM Been thinking about this. Even if they have the law on their side, it's surely going to cost them more than £100 to pursue someone who doesn't respond to them, etc. It costs them at least £30 just for the keeper appealing through POPLA. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: tikay on July 01, 2013, 08:40:37 PM If you refuse to pay, they may post a live ostrich through your letter box. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: Cf on July 02, 2013, 08:56:27 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay.
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 02, 2013, 09:34:54 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: kinboshi on July 02, 2013, 09:41:24 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 02, 2013, 10:16:12 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay. LOL It's something I feel really strongly about after getting shafted by them once. Since then I have been a champion of spreading the message for people not to pay 'Parking Charge Notices' (not to be confused with 'Penalty Charge Notices' which you have to pay by law). Parking charge notices are nothing but an invoice. Fortunately in this country just because you park your car in a private car park doesn't mean that you have entered into a contract agreeing with the rules of the car park. Also there a laws in this country that states that any fine has to be inline with the costs incurred by the offence committed. These fines (invoices) are ridiculously over priced as such. I don't advocate going in to a car park and not paying I just don't want to get ripped off if I go over the allotted time. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 02, 2013, 11:56:50 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay. LOL It's something I feel really strongly about after getting shafted by them once. Since then I have been a champion of spreading the message for people not to pay 'Parking Charge Notices' (not to be confused with 'Penalty Charge Notices' which you have to pay by law). Parking charge notices are nothing but an invoice. Fortunately in this country just because you park your car in a private car park doesn't mean that you have entered into a contract agreeing with the rules of the car park. Also there a laws in this country that states that any fine has to be inline with the costs incurred by the offence committed. These fines (invoices) are ridiculously over priced as such. I don't advocate going in to a car park and not paying I just don't want to get ripped off if I go over the allotted time. Are you sure this is true? Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: outragous76 on July 02, 2013, 11:59:48 AM Ignore them completely. Don't pay. LOL It's something I feel really strongly about after getting shafted by them once. Since then I have been a champion of spreading the message for people not to pay 'Parking Charge Notices' (not to be confused with 'Penalty Charge Notices' which you have to pay by law). Parking charge notices are nothing but an invoice. Fortunately in this country just because you park your car in a private car park doesn't mean that you have entered into a contract agreeing with the rules of the car park. Also there a laws in this country that states that any fine has to be inline with the costs incurred by the offence committed. These fines (invoices) are ridiculously over priced as such. I don't advocate going in to a car park and not paying I just don't want to get ripped off if I go over the allotted time. Are you sure this is true? my understanding is that this part is very vague, but vague enough to not pay for now. Its about offer and acceptance and where by merely entering their space you have accepted their terms. But moreso the bit about cost of line being in line with the offence is more important Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: LeedsRhodesy on July 03, 2013, 12:39:39 AM Don't pay it you will get a few letters saying they are taking you to court but I just binned them in e past
http://youtu.be/XAIcdi9niHA Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: ripple11 on July 03, 2013, 10:48:48 AM Don't pay it you will get a few letters saying they are taking you to court but I just binned them in e past http://youtu.be/XAIcdi9niHA from the comments below the video.... :) I didn't bother opening the 2nd letter they sent me. I just drew a fist with the middle finger pointing upwards on the front of the envelope, and sent it back to 'em. If they send me a third, they'll get a drawing of a fist with two fingers pointing upwards. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: LeedsRhodesy on July 03, 2013, 01:11:40 PM How much is the Fine?? for 50% you can say i was the named driver at the time and i will deal with it Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: bobAlike on July 03, 2013, 01:44:58 PM I've had letters from the parking companies, debt collection agencies and solicitors. I put all of them through the shredder.
The majority of the parking companies pretty much all use the same collection agencies and solicitors. Roxburgh debt collection and Micheal White solicitors. All of them are crooks. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: snoopy1239 on July 11, 2013, 05:44:16 PM Decided to appeal and got it overturned by the parking company.
Yay. Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: ripple11 on July 11, 2013, 05:54:53 PM :)up
Title: Re: Parking Ticket Post by: s4ooter on July 11, 2013, 06:15:03 PM I had one from them for parking outside the hotel in Cov (days inn corley)
I rang the hotel and they told me to ignore it. result |