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$5/10 game at the Rio.

Im prob most active at the table, although not shown down anything too out of the norm etc.game playing smallish, not too many big pots, or anyone getting too ool.

I open Qh9h to $40 from co, bb peels. Guy in mid 40s, recognise him from a previous trip, would describe him as a weak reg. Both playing ~$3k.

Flop: Qd 7d 9c

He pauses and check calls $60

Turn Qs (pot $205)

He leads $85, I make it $250, he calls quite quickly.

River 10h (pot $705)

He quickly bets $800

Thoughts?

Villain is

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WAL

surely you gotta go all in here?

what is this guff?


pha ala mitch. so we open flop world turn house. HOW MUCH SHALL WE WIN ON THE RIVA


i'd go with COCKTAILS and order some food?

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA5Pjw_cZn0

Lol

Why why why would he bet the river when you are obviously betting regardless of what you're holding. I'm guessing he's pretty stupid which makes me think there is obviously a chance he has the old TenQue very much.

Can you rule out 77 and 99? It looks likely he has a Q on the turn so I'd probably rule those hands out esp since most people will probably 3b 99 pre. Any FD's that have magically made a straight on the river would most likely fold to a jam so I think calling with the 2nd nuts is pretty LOL but probably the best line.

don't agree here...

its arrrin from me.

just call probs. folding out of the question mitch you baboon.

iv played with that guy before i think.

Folding? You wanna fold? surely we cant ever fold. His line is ridiculous though.

Sry ginger , just wonder why u ask people opinions here when u know what u doing ? I M ALLIN . Don't tell me u just thinking of calling there u fish cake ! P

Think I just call looks very strong.

Nits ITT ;)

are people reading much into his 'overbet' size. given it's live and people 'spread the pot' rather than calculating how many chips are in there, he might have just guestimated and tried to bet 'around pot'.


as is million folds in the options.

I suggest, order 6 more plates of food before triple fist pumping so hard you punch yourself in the nadgers.

Wtf are you all smoking? All in and loving it.

im glad a few people started saying call because I was gonna feel like such a fish saying I think call>raise here.

Thanks for the replies.

Wtf ??? U called , raised or shoved or fold ?? What did u do ?

You knew no-one would say fold, what was the point of the thread?

Basically, since putting the thread up, ive realised it was much more about being there, and from the outside, everyone is going to just be like 'LOL you have second nuts, he has a porno tache, what are you doing' etc.

Wasnt going to put that i folded because thought i could end up leveling myself in a pot vs someone who read this thread, but watevs.

I did fold, and flashed him my hand, which is something i hardly ever do, and he didnt really respond and looked pretty pissed off. He later claimed a straight, but pretty sure in those spots that when somebody makes a big fold and shows it, they would show a worse hand there if they had one 95% of the time. Also, he has to bet call a straight draw on a paired board on the turn which is just not something i think he would do unless he had a flush draw with it.

If he had claimed a worse full house i would have been a lot more worried.

I know combo-wise their is potentially more hands he might be value betting that i beat, but i dont think he over pots hardly any of them.

This is going to sound 'lol live pro fishy' but i had a Simon Deadman live read moment and just went with it.

Probably a pointless thread, but cheers for the input.
 

Mitch, you're either the best... or the worst. And the sick thing is that you will never know which one for sure! ;)

Wait, what?

You're only an internet player Patrick. You don't understand live reads like Mitch does.

You peel every flop turn river and cold 5 bet and you choose this time to start folding?

Yeah, prob woulda snapped him off with pocket deuces. lol

I still believed u folded ! At least just call . Folded is just way out of ur league, even if u had deadman read at that moment .

rofl this.

Never ever ever folding. If i've got some sick live-read I guess I might just flat. Aside from that i'm jamming happily. I mean even with a read he's super-strong he can still definitely have worse boats a lot. Folding seems pretty absurd, unless he shows a ten or something or is in any way related to big Mike (italian-american bloke).

Understand where your coming from but what the fuck if you thought a pha would be semi reasonable lol. Agree with your postshowdown reads

not as angry as it sounds btw

Must be winning lots . Shop closed and time to go home

I'm staggered you folded, you must have had a super super super live read, I mean his line is fkn terrible he defo isn't bluffing but still, wow.

How the fuck he can fold there . It's angry not to raise mind folding . He's out if his comfort zone ! I know Mitch is awesome player but folding 2nd nuts doesn't make sense . As I say above , he must be locking  up his winning ;p

You need to be right in folding so often. That's like saying he has to have QT 70%+ of the time here to make this fold when he bets pot.

Maybe this time it was correct to fold but I think it's a bit dreadful in this scenario. BTW being able to make a sick fold when you've got such a strong hand doesn't make you dreadful obv, just think that this shouldn't ever really be a fold.

If he bet $2k on the other hand, a fold discussion would be ITT.

No offence Mitch, and I'm all for making hero live reads but folding here is terrible.

I've played a decent amount of live cash and I've seen people overvaluing hands enough to make this a call. I would consider raising then probably just flat and get berated by my backer/piece buyers/friends for just calling. 

This. His bet isn't even that polarising, whereas $2k is.

this is why I asked if people actually though this was an zomg i'm overbetting bet or whether he just guestimated whats in pot and did a betty near enough to that amount.

But who cares, the guy didn't show so it was prob the correct fold so wiiiiiiiiiii.

LOL, not a case of this at all.

Meh, if id have read this back on somebody elses thread i would probably have been thinking WTF aswell. Just cant explain how im so sure he had that exact hand, but if there was a way of proving it, id probably still bet quite a lot of money that he did have it.

Hmm you'd bet so you think he has it >50% of the time? Still a call then....

Not folding, but considering position and river card it looks like the only way he could win the pot is by throwing the dice

Also, do you not just have the thoughts of "I think he's winning, but I have such a premium". With this hand and regardless of whether I think opp has q-10, still feel as if I had to call it off