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Title: AA in £100 freeze Post by: zerofive on July 14, 2013, 01:40:07 PM Seemed like a no-brainer to me at the time but would like to see what others think
150/300/50 level. Villain 1 just moved to the table, older gent tho, have seen him flat with JJ. Played with villain 2 a few times, has moves but on the whole is super tight (once before in a cash game he flatted me with second nut house on 3 to a straight flush board.) Think we all have in the region of 25-30k. Villain 1 raises UTG to 750 Hero 3bets UTG+1 to 1950 with Aspades Ad Folds to Villain 2 who calls button Blinds fold. Villain 1 calls. Flop (6,750) Qs 4s 3h Villain 1 checks. Hero bets 3300 Villain 2 calls Villain 1 calls Turn (16,650) Qs 4s 3h 5h Villain 1 checks Hero checks Villain 2 bets 9000 Villain 1 raises all-in Hero folds Thoughts please Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: rfgqqabc on July 14, 2013, 01:44:10 PM Seems like we are probably behind in both spots somehow. Going to be v.tilting to see V2 with KK and V1 with QJhh
Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: jgcblack on July 14, 2013, 01:50:29 PM Seems like we are probably behind in both spots somehow. Going to be v.tilting to see V2 with KK and V1 with QJhh this.... Would really need to be villain dependant, live reads etc... I think not having the Ah could push this into a call a more than 0%. however this early on.... I probably just let it go and take my 25k to the bank next hand Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: Tal on July 14, 2013, 01:54:46 PM Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?
Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: zerofive on July 14, 2013, 01:59:32 PM Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77? Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: Tal on July 14, 2013, 02:02:18 PM Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77? Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold? Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: zerofive on July 14, 2013, 02:17:28 PM Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77? Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold? Is that bad? Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2013, 02:27:48 PM 5k on the flop seems wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too big no?
Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: Tal on July 14, 2013, 02:34:41 PM Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77? Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold? Is that bad? Apologies. That wasn't a criticism; I was just trying to understand the rationale. It's good to learn why you bet what you bet and why you made the decisions you made. @pleno, against two players, I would assume that a two-suit flop with one picture lends itself more to a larger c-bet. I like finding out I'm wrong, though :) Can't improve without knowing this stuff. It'd be great if you didn't assume I knew what I was doing, though, and continued your posts with the word "because". Recs gotta Rec, see? Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: zerofive on July 14, 2013, 03:04:03 PM I think 5k leaves us with an awkward stack size for the rest of the hand. Basically we can only go for two streets of value if we bet too much on the flop. I like your idea of getting one villain to go crazy, but I think versus two nits (well, one nit and one perceived nit) I just don't think that's going to happen.
Basically heads up I was going for three streets against an AQ/KQ because while we block an ace, it's still more likely that he has one of those hands than a flopped set. Against two villains, especially when we have the Aspades, it dramatically reduces the combo of flush draws we can get value from and does greatly increase the likelihood that we are beaten in one spot. I could also be wrong Title: Re: AA in £100 freeze Post by: MC on July 14, 2013, 03:06:09 PM Wp imo.
Sucks if you were good, but I don't think we're good often enough to gii. |