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Title: super tuesday vs gray Post by: pleno1 on July 17, 2013, 07:39:20 AM Ok, these 2 are really going at it, and talkjing in the chat box.
NoNo Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars 8 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com (http://weaktight.com/) $1000+$50 Stacks: UTG psjebemvas (3,440) 9bb UTG+1 Fishenzon (10,151) 25bb MP1 pleno1 (12,007) 30bb MP2 punisher03 (20,237) 51bb CO StaceOP (7,388) 18bb BTN mayland100 (6,672) 17bb SB TheLipoFund (21,894) 55bb BB gray31 (9,661) 24bb Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50 Pre-Flop: (1,000, 8 players) pleno1 is MP1 :4s :3c 2 folds, pleno1 folds, punisher03 raises to 860, 3 folds, gray31 calls 460 Flop: :7h :6h :9s (2,320, 2 players) gray31 checks, punisher03 bets 881, gray31 calls 881 Turn: :9h (4,082, 2 players) gray31 bets 1,789, punisher03 goes all-in 18,446, gray31 goes all-in 6,081 River: :7d (19,822, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 19,822 gray31 shows a full house, Nines full of Sevens :9c :td punisher03 shows two pair, Nines and Sevens :jc :6c gray31 wins 19,822 (net +10,161) punisher03 collects 10,576 (net -9,661) Punisher03 is playing 27,21 and Gray a relatively splashy and loose style. Im an unknown to both of them. No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars 9 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com (http://weaktight.com/) $1000+$50 Stacks: UTG punisher03 (10,426) 26bb UTG+1 StaceOP (6,348) 16bb MP1 mayland100 (8,362) 21bb MP2 TheLipoFund (21,494) 54bb MP3 gray31 (19,472) 49bb CO psjebemvas (2,640) 7bb BTN Vituperio (7,440) 19bb SB Fishenzon (9,551) 24bb BB pleno1 (11,807) 30bb Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50 Pre-Flop: (1,050, 9 players) pleno1 is BB :9s :9d punisher03 raises to 860, 3 folds, gray31 raises to 1,678, 3 folds, pleno1 , Also whats best hand we fold, worst we go with? Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: Pinchop73 on July 17, 2013, 11:53:57 AM I mean I'd say a conventional 3b range in this spot (an MP 3b'ing a 26bb utg open) would be JJ+/AQs+ which we obv don't do particularly well against, but with utg dynamic, and having seen some of the stupid stuff Ramage has done in the past vs me I really don't think it can be that bad, verging on quite a nice spot.
Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: NigDawG on July 17, 2013, 05:10:34 PM i'd be surprised if gray was 3bet folding here with these stack sizes, but punisher is still probably opening too wide so gray will just be wider for value with the dynamic. i think 99 is going to be just about ok to shove here, given those assumptions.
would fold 88 and think AQs is really really close. Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: lucky_scrote on July 17, 2013, 09:17:10 PM I don't really care too much how that original hand panned out, I'd care more about how often punisher is raising first in and also how often he's opening in mid and early position. If these stats are high from punisher and grey has a few 3bet fold hands in his range here then I'm just gonna snap it in here. Not sure I agree with Bram that gray isn't 3bet folding much because 3betting punisher puts him in a coffin with these stacks.
Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: pleno1 on July 17, 2013, 09:19:30 PM xposted on 2p2 hsmtt and basically nobody said fold which makes me feel better
Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: pleno1 on July 17, 2013, 09:21:04 PM I don't really care too much how that original hand panned out, I'd care more about how often punisher is raising first in and also how often he's opening in mid and early position. If these stats are high from punisher and grey has a few 3bet fold hands in his range here then I'm just gonna snap it in here. Not sure I agree with Bram that gray isn't 3bet folding much because 3betting punisher puts him in a coffin with these stacks. Punisher03 is playing 27,21 and Gray a relatively splashy and loose style. Im an unknown to both of them. yeh punisher super splashy. id prolly expect himt o raise, 4bet pile 22 vs gray. Title: Re: super tuesday vs gray Post by: stato_1 on July 18, 2013, 12:37:09 AM Worked out pretty well for punisher!
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