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Title: A9s on the Button
Post by: Lawro74 on July 20, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
I'm on the button with approx 16bb...blinds 600/1200 200 ante

Villain UTG +1 raises 2600 - abc player
Villain UTG +2 cold calls - loose weak

Hero Button  Ad 9d

both players have roughly average chips = which is approx 25/30bb

what do you think the default play should be?


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: BulldozerD on July 20, 2013, 09:43:09 PM
Fold


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 20, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
I would fold readless which we appear to be and I can't imagine many scenarios where id shove after a flat, but before it seems more than possible. Include some reads.


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: pleno1 on July 20, 2013, 09:59:53 PM
reads? lotsss of dead money


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: mondatoo on July 20, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
How are people giving replies without knowing what average is ?


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: outragous76 on July 20, 2013, 10:26:19 PM
Assuming 8 handed then jamming here can rarely be bad with 8.6k in the middle and 19k back



Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: TL900 on July 20, 2013, 11:11:54 PM
fold


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: wazz on July 21, 2013, 11:33:53 AM
Very happy to jam here


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: EvilPie on July 21, 2013, 11:52:33 AM
Happily folding here without some decent reads. Move along, plenty more opportunities in the next few orbits.

Any more on utg+2?? A lot of players can't resist flatting with speculative hands, suited connectors, all pairs etc. even when their stack size dictates they shouldn't.

How about abc man? abc players don't generally open in EP without a hand good enough to call off a 16bb shove.

What are they likely to think of you? Is there any chance they'll fold A10 or 99 vs your shove thinking they're behind? He's not going to be a lot lighter than this.


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: Lawro74 on July 21, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
The pr-flop aggressor actually had  Aspades Jc and I think he would have folded if I jammed....the loose weak player has a massive calling range (yes he was that bad)


Title: Re: A9s on the Button
Post by: dreenie on July 24, 2013, 01:50:54 AM
Lots of things dependant IMO.  Level of buy in?, how many left?, what's average?, where r u in relation to runners left?, how does your table perceive u in recent hands gone by?

I can't see how anyone can give an honest answer with the info you have been given, we might Aswell just all play ABC poker if this is the case.