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PokerStars Zoom Hand #103051363086:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2013/08/21 20:43:18 UTC [2013/08/21 16:43:18 ET]
Table 'Triangulum' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Di Rossi81 ($240.33 in chips)
Seat 2: t0p pl4y3r ($165.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Marcus85 ($152.35 in chips)
Seat 4: outragous76 ($132.38 in chips)
Seat 5: frase1977 ($215.10 in chips)
Seat 6: vrnMike ($187 in chips)
t0p pl4y3r: posts small blind $0.50
Marcus85: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [Qh Ah]
outragous76: raises $2 to $3
frase1977: calls $3
vrnMike: calls $3
Di Rossi81: calls $3
t0p pl4y3r: folds
Marcus85: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc Ac 7c]
outragous76: bets $3
frase1977: calls $3
vrnMike: calls $3
Di Rossi81: raises $12.50 to $15.50
outragous76: calls $12.50
frase1977: folds
vrnMike: calls $12.50
*** TURN *** [Qc Ac 7c] [6h]
outragous76: checks
vrnMike: checks
Di Rossi81: bets $67
outragous76 ?????????

Whats with the flop size? I'd bet 8$ probably.  Folding turn as played, what else can we do. We beat no value hands. Do we have any reads? VIP levels, table number, location?

I did wonder whether we beat Axkc but that's about it

There is a guy behind you too though.

yup

I folded obv

just want to make super its a super trivial fold

I would agree it is. Hate flop size.

Wtf is the flop bet guy?

I would fold the flop and feel happy about it, turn v trivil fold.

Lol @ posting insults then deleting them!

Apologies I thought it was plenos thread and I was trolling him.

Pretty funny you snap picked up on it tho.

Well taking the pot HU I would have been happy with the $3

Not many people continue on mono tone boards in zoom.

Obv as it plays its pretty sigh

lol

what did you call me?

Just as much as anything though. AA would be pretty sigh I guess, but wte

So lets assume the over caller isn't in on the flop (and as played to the turn), we 100% folding? Just feels like a flopped weak flush? No consideration to Kc + pair combos?

sorry i dont understand you, it went 4 way on the flop. what are you asking me to assume? if we called the flop raise and the second guy folded? yeah i would fold. i would probably just fold to the first raise, but when you bet this really weird amount i dont know what id do because id never be in that situation and people almost certainly will react different to this bet than a normal bet.

its possible he thinks youre a big fish because of your sizing and would raise some Ax hands for value.

In general these zoom games are meant to be tough but in reality they are soft if you play good fundamental poker and have a good overall game.

Yes, was asking you to assume we went HU to turn

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Yeah I agree with the others about the flop Guy, you should definitely be betting somewhere close to 80% pot I think, to get value from Kc Xx and Ax Xc, but also because it gives you great visibility in the hand. If you pot it and he raises then we can just sigh and fold knowing we probably have 4 outs. When you bet this silly amount it doesn't really give us any information about what kind of hand the villain has because he may just be pouncing on the perceived weak bet.

That being said, it is 4 way to the flop so it's pretty likely that he's not getting too out of line, and even with our ridiculous sizing his flop raising range is going to be mostly flushes.

Just fold.