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Title: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: pleno1 on September 21, 2013, 08:19:27 PM Firaldo opens utg at 60-120 to 300, i peel big blind with 8h7h
Flop Th 9c 8d I check, he checks back 2c ott, I check call 405 into 700 River Jh I check He bets 2100 into 1600. I tank folded. Anybody calls? Help me get to the level to why he bets so much? Only history we have is that he 5b,7b or 4b,6b 44 deep in a soft tournament. This is a ftops 215 2 day thing. Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: lucky_scrote on September 23, 2013, 01:14:51 PM Who is Firaldo? If he's any good or aggro then I just fold pre, something I'm working on and perhaps is wrong but I find being OOP vs decent players with marginal hands doesn't work too well for me.
Anyway, this confuses me and because he's bet so big I probably just fold the river. Terrible reasoning but if he's bluffing then congratulations to him. Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: Boba Fett on September 23, 2013, 02:26:18 PM Who is Firaldo? If he's any good or aggro then I just fold pre, something I'm working on and perhaps is wrong but I find being OOP vs decent players with marginal hands doesn't work too well for me. He's good but he's no GeraldoAnyway, this confuses me and because he's bet so big I probably just fold the river. Terrible reasoning but if he's bluffing then congratulations to him. Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: Nit Tendencies on September 23, 2013, 05:05:39 PM Folding pre would be terrible. One of the biggest leaks that mtt players have (I was definitely guilty of this when I used to reg) is passing up on great prices with the correct parts of our range in fear of getting outplayed.
I'm not sure about this spot tbh, because we don't have many Qx at all when we check/call the turn. Maybe he thinks we won't fold 7x and I guess he can give us 4 combos of 79s, 78s, 67s and maybe 4 of J7s too which can all feasibly check/call the turn. Seems weird though. I used to play with him quite a lot and he's a mate of mine, and he is pretty aggro/creative, with a game that I rate. I'm struggling to figure out this hand though. I'll have a think and maybe post later. Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: lucky_scrote on September 23, 2013, 07:24:33 PM Ok, I'm glad you think that folding is terrible. I was always peely in these spots vs anyone but I just wasn't sure exactly how good calling is here.
Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: SuuPRlim on September 24, 2013, 05:20:45 AM we don't have many Qx at all when we check/call the turn. never Q9/Q8/QT? I guess if we never have a Q then we should call right? Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: The Squid on September 24, 2013, 06:05:04 PM You don't have KQ in your range he does, your capped, he's uncapped so perfect spot to apply maximum pressure.
Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: The Squid on September 24, 2013, 06:05:50 PM I always spite call tho. Then berate him in chat if your wrong.
Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: titaniumbean on September 25, 2013, 03:51:18 PM I always spite call tho. Then berate him in chat if your wrong. such an under utilised strategy imo Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: AlexMartin on September 25, 2013, 04:44:41 PM is kq not an auto-flat v utg fullring squid? or are you always leading that v flop checkback
Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: pleno1 on September 25, 2013, 05:00:30 PM mandatory turn lead
Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: Firaldo87 on September 26, 2013, 02:04:58 AM Only history we have is that he 5b,7b or 4b,6b 44 deep in a soft tournament. confirmed did this carry on Title: Re: vs firaldo, gimme a reason to fold Post by: pleno1 on September 26, 2013, 03:05:56 AM Wuguwguwuguwuguwuuguwugu tho?
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