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Title: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: theprawnidentity on September 26, 2013, 02:11:00 AM
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

luciusakdj10 (BTN): $48.11 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
shutiee (SB): $106.16 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
tomsom87 (BB): $26.41
tony dolbeat (UTG): $31.43 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SlodkaKaska (MP): $38.51 (VPIP: 18.07, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 86)
muahjojojo (CO): $26.92 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)

shutiee posts SB $0.10, tomsom87 posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) tomsom87 has   Ks Ac

fold, fold, fold, luciusakdj10 raises to $0.75, shutiee raises to $2.25, tomsom87 raises to $5.75, luciusakdj10 calls $5.00, fold

Flop: ($13.75, 2 players)   7d Qh 5s
tomsom87 bets $6.30, luciusakdj10 raises to $42.36 and is all-in, tomsom87?

I seem to get myself into these kinds of spots with AK/AQ type hands a lot, any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated?


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: pleno1 on September 26, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Was your plan pre flop to 4bfold?

As played yeah std.


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: theprawnidentity on September 26, 2013, 03:15:03 AM
Would have probably got it in pre vs one and folded of they both went with it.


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: pleno1 on September 26, 2013, 03:52:32 AM
If button 5bets it's probs a fold if so does then #hopeforqueens


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: rfgqqabc on September 27, 2013, 02:45:35 AM
If button 5bets it's probs a fold if so does then #hopeforqueens
Hes not finding a herofold with jacks/tens from the button. Got to get in the amount of dead money is obscene.


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: pleno1 on September 27, 2013, 03:36:48 AM
he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.




Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: Bully87 on September 27, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
It's obvs a fold now.

Is it too weak to not bet this flop?

I find myself in very similar spots and I've started to check these kind of horrid boards and obviously find myself c/f which feels just too weak.


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: jgcblack on September 28, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.

They really dont.

I have a lot of AK and JJ vs AA/ KK to prove it...


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: Rod on September 29, 2013, 12:51:03 PM
he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.
Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: pleno1 on September 29, 2013, 03:13:35 PM
he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.
Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?

That would be a fairly accurate read often we won't even see jacks. I'm not sure what they do with them it just feels like they don't shove.

A guy I coach at n,50 was I the big blind, the button raised, sb 3bet and he instantly folded ak


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: jgcblack on September 29, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
he will almost certainly not shove tens in this spot.
Once somebody 4-bets in this kind of spot what kind of range should we be putting them on? It's fair to assume that most people at this level don't 4-bet fold right? I believe it to be JJ+ and AK really the only hands that players do this with unless you have evidence to contradict this.

Is this right?

That would be a fairly accurate read often we won't even see jacks. I'm not sure what they do with them it just feels like they don't shove.

A guy I coach at n,50 was I the big blind, the button raised, sb 3bet and he instantly folded ak

[  ] sounds good.....


:)


Title: Re: NL25 Zoom Hand - 4
Post by: pleno1 on September 29, 2013, 08:20:31 PM
it probably wasnt even terrible i guess lol