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Title: AK sooted
Post by: BethalLizzle on October 10, 2013, 09:12:40 AM
Stars Hot 44 last night

Blinds 200/400

Villain is Run dat Game who is a good reg as I understand it. He has 34K
Hero has 16K

No stats on Villain but he has been opening a lot of pots and using his stack well. We had a confrontation approx 10 mins earlier where I 4 bet shoved 44 pre from the BB after he limped/3 bet the SB. He folded. Apart from that I have been trying to stay out of his way.

Villain open utg+2 to 800
Hero is utg+3 and has AKss and raises to 1850 (sizing?)
Villain calls

Flop 677 (2 hearts)

Villain checks
Hero?

Might be a trivial question but is c betting this flop abs standard. Just seems like we are going to get called a whole lot of the time. Maybe I'm just a pussy! .


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: Pinchop73 on October 10, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
Vs a good a thinker as Lichtenberger i think I prefer to flat pre considering the effective stack size and positions at the table. I realise post flop play is a rarity in turbos but off 40bb I doubt we can get it in pre way ahead.
I think he probs peels nearly everything he opens with, so I'd prefer to see a larger 3b if we do. (2195/jam)

As played I'm extremely guilty of not cbetting correctly, but I think in this instance it's fine to check behind, don't feel this is the correct person to try stay balanced vs.

I think in general I would want to keep pots as small as possible vs probably the best player (na affence) in a high value tournament.

EDIT: ignore me, I've got my villains mixed up. Would certainly want to get this in pre vs him so def going with the chunky 3b.
Have you any history apart from the bvb hand? Probs a mandatory cbet vs this guy, 1385/f


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: Nit Tendencies on October 10, 2013, 02:03:28 PM
Run dat game is a decent mtt reg (not Luckychewy).

I would always flat pre unless we had some absurd dynamic.

If we bet I think we have to bet/bet/jam which is quite spewy, and may well be terrible in a tournament, so I think check back and try and get to showdown.


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: AlexMartin on October 10, 2013, 02:36:45 PM
Run dat game is a decent mtt reg (not Luckychewy).

I would always flat pre unless we had some absurd dynamic.

If we bet I think we have to bet/bet/jam which is quite spewy, and may well be terrible in a tournament, so I think check back and try and get to showdown.


why? we are almost never bluffing here pre, seems like as good a hand as any to do it. Think the bulk of his range calls once (oop floats/mid pps/aq) but hates life by the riv.


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: lucky_scrote on October 10, 2013, 02:42:24 PM
I am going bet bet jam here all day long. Similar hand:

PokerStars Hand #105120939329: Tournament #794588931, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (750/1500) - 2013/10/06 20:12:18 WET [2013/10/06 15:12:18 ET]
Table '794588931 96' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: proggrezive (68827 in chips)
Seat 2: --H77H-- (15910 in chips)
Seat 3: NickyMartini (105814 in chips)
Seat 4: Pimmss (39443 in chips)
Seat 5: jobetzu (89061 in chips)
Seat 6: PieTrO_925 (30399 in chips)
Seat 7: Elektrikas (78760 in chips)
Seat 8: mistere3 (67330 in chips)
Seat 9: danistheking (145649 in chips)
proggrezive: posts the ante 150
--H77H--: posts the ante 150
NickyMartini: posts the ante 150
Pimmss: posts the ante 150
jobetzu: posts the ante 150
PieTrO_925: posts the ante 150
Elektrikas: posts the ante 150
mistere3: posts the ante 150
danistheking: posts the ante 150
PieTrO_925: posts small blind 750
Elektrikas: posts big blind 1500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to danistheking [Kd Ac]
mistere3: raises 1734 to 3234
danistheking: raises 3516 to 6750
proggrezive: folds
--H77H--: folds
NickyMartini: folds
Pimmss: folds
jobetzu: folds
PieTrO_925: folds
Elektrikas: folds
mistere3: calls 3516
*** FLOP *** [3d 7h 5d]
mistere3: checks
danistheking: bets 7777
mistere3: calls 7777
*** TURN *** [3d 7h 5d] [Qh]
mistere3: checks
danistheking: bets 12345
mistere3: calls 12345
*** RIVER *** [3d 7h 5d Qh] [8d]
mistere3: checks
danistheking: bets 42000
mistere3: folds
Uncalled bet (42000) returned to danistheking
danistheking collected 57344 from pot
danistheking: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 57344 | Rake 0
Board [3d 7h 5d Qh 8d]
Seat 1: proggrezive folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: --H77H-- folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NickyMartini folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Pimmss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jobetzu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PieTrO_925 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Elektrikas (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: mistere3 folded on the River
Seat 9: danistheking collected (57344)


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: The Squid on October 10, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
Do you ever bluff 3-bet in these positions? If we bet, bet, jam this hand then what we're doing it with our whole 3 betting range on low boards? Seems like that's not neccesary.


Title: Re: AK sooted
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 10, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
Run dat game is a decent mtt reg (not Luckychewy)

Luckychewy = runthistable

Ran Dat Game is Chris Lovett i believe