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PokerStars Zoom Hand #105535543505:  Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2013/10/15 16:55:56 CET [2013/10/15 10:55:56 ET]
Table 'Aenna' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: MOOSQUAD ($227.26 in chips)
Seat 2: HumbertoHunk ($233.44 in chips)
Seat 3: Dintyo ($224.24 in chips)
Seat 4: MrIsBack ($154.49 in chips)
Seat 5: pads1161 ($345.52 in chips)
Seat 6: Giovanni030 ($331.21 in chips)
HumbertoHunk: posts small blind $1
Dintyo: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Kc Jh]
MrIsBack: folds
pads1161: raises $4 to $6
Giovanni030: folds
MOOSQUAD: folds
HumbertoHunk: folds
Dintyo: raises $12 to $18
pads1161: raises $21 to $39
Dintyo: calls $21
*** FLOP *** [Kh 2s 5c]
Dintyo: checks
pads1161: checks
*** TURN *** [Kh 2s 5c] [Jd]
Dintyo: checks
pads1161: bets $42
Dintyo: calls $42
*** RIVER *** [Kh 2s 5c Jd] [Ah]
Dintyo: checks
pads1161: checks

wug?

villainis std reg no tendancies as of yet.

Villian is decent played alot with him. At first look seems a bad spot for a 4bet, with him 3b out of the BB into a tightish range.Hes more likely to be polarised so once he peels the 4b i suspect we are more weighted to been up against a range dominating KJ.

Personally i wouldn't check the flop, i think anyone worth there salt understands that once you check back such a dry board you have something your taking to showdown. Id far rather bet $24 and go from there, lots of regs will stick around with TQs+ (with a bdfd). I think river is probably a check given how the hand has played. When you take this line, i doubt he ever calls off something like KQ and most of his range that continues actually beats you.

in zoom whilst players are good enough to understand that i have showdown (very basic and doesnt mean good ofc) but they just go into auto aggro mode and take off. I see so many ridiculous bluffs in these kind of spots.

Pre flop, people are 3betting weird ranges and peeling 4bets very often. Like I would never expect hmi to 3bet kj,aj,kq pre flop but i wouldnt be surprised to see him call a 4bet with j9s.

But I would echo all of your sentiments generally and in this hand folding to the 3bet is probably going to be absolutely fine. Its very possible that he data mines hands against me and knows I have a small 4bet% too so after ive played 200,000 hands or so Ive started changing certain tendancies.

Its pretty similar to your post and actually what somebody posted somewhere els,e maybe on 2p2, but they felt thta some days every reg was just c-raising them or raising their river bets every time, and its likeyl they are in skype groups disecting little bits of info. so whenever i keep getting 3bet from the sb or min 4bet from the button i usually try to change things up a little bit. it could be variance or i could just be super paranoid.

i did check river and he has a hand which makes sense if he is indeed calling the j9s pre.

"in zoom whilst players are good enough to understand that i have showdown (very basic and doesnt mean good ofc) but they just go into auto aggro mode and take off. I see so many ridiculous bluffs in these kind of spots."

Yep there are some candidates where checking is best, i'd argue against Dintyo betting will be better than checking, hes pretty solid.

yeah thanks for dem reads. wwas just unknown reg at time like 400 hands or something.

think hes a deuces coach (or used to be), can get a line on his thought process there (albeit dated).

Thoughts on his turn check with aces?

likely views (viewed) your 4b as super polar and saw little value in betting.