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Title: More PLO.
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2013, 05:21:07 PM
Here is a spot that gets a lot of people into a lot of trouble...

GAME #5176799393: Omaha  PL €2/€4 2013-10-15 17:42:40
Table Kilbricken
Seat 1: peterstone12 (€410.37 in chips)
Seat 3: bshee (€200.00 in chips)
Seat 5: confusedturk1 (€527.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Lil Dave (€872.90 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: Frodo0Baggins (€489.00 in chips)
Seat 10: MRhusseinAA (€400.00 in chips)
Frodo0Baggins: Post SB €2.00
MRhusseinAA: Post BB €4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lil Dave [ 3c 3h 4c 4h]
peterstone12: Raise (NF) €14.00
confusedturk1: Raise (NF) €48.00
Lil Dave: Call €48.00
Frodo0Baggins: Fold
MRhusseinAA: Fold
peterstone12: Call €34.00
*** FLOP *** [5h 6c 10c]
peterstone12: Check
confusedturk1: Bet €135.00
Lil Dave:

Pot is €150.00. peterstone12 been playing very loose and confusedturk is a pretty aggressive regular.

You stacking off?


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: Longines on October 16, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
With 3 nut outs and 4 under cards to the board I'm out. Mind you, I was out pre to the 3b, looking forward to hearing the thoughts behind the cold call.


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on October 16, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
With 3 nut outs and 4 under cards to the board I'm out. Mind you, I was out pre to the 3b, looking forward to hearing the thoughts behind the cold call.

Agree with this 100% but if I have already called with that hand pre , I will stick it in . I played them aswell and MadTurk is very aggro . He probably will have Aces DS or even bare Ac here .


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: gouty on October 16, 2013, 11:46:44 PM
It never gets me in trouble but then I can never see me winning a big pot with that starting hand.

Why do you put yourself through this pain?

Enlighten us LilD.


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: theprawnidentity on October 16, 2013, 11:59:45 PM
Dont play PLO > Fold Pre > Fold Now ainec imo


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: gouty on October 17, 2013, 12:41:26 AM
It's another one of those hands where because of pre flop play every single decision after is going to be marginal. I am presuming you read Peterstone12 to be having no more action in the hand and stacking off v Turk? As we know he won't be folding?

In one way this as easy as this hand will ever play due to Turks bet so for that we should be thankful. Still looks like a fold now even though I would be so pissed to play this hand pre it may look too pretty now. Could be up against AAQ5 and 7789? Don't fancy my chances v either let alone both.

If you have some sort of read that you are HU with Turk then fire away?

But then again f that cos you have no hand yet. So if you hit you win yes? So we want peterstone in? But so many of our outs are non nut.

Why go through all this. Fold pre.

Come on D. What's this all about?



Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: pleno1 on October 17, 2013, 07:44:37 AM
Ohhhh we over called pre I thought we raise/called. Seems too wide but I'm a fish yo


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: tikay on October 17, 2013, 08:22:08 AM
I'm with gouty.

1) Why are we even in the hand?

2) Why give ourselves all these difficult decisions? No matter how hard we hit the flop with that hand, we will always be at tremendous risk.

3) Personally, I (try to) avoid unforced errors, like getting involved with this kind of rubbish. Simple is best. I wanna chill at the table, not earn myself a migraine.

PS - Who was playing on your account Dave? I refuse to believe that one of my PLO gurus plays starting hands of that nature. Someone very wise once repeatedly told me, over many years, "PLO is a game where we want big cards".


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: tikay on October 17, 2013, 08:24:38 AM

and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was.......Dave

Damn!


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on October 17, 2013, 09:00:30 AM

and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was.......Dave

Damn!




What tape is it TK ? Is it done kind if video that Dave teach poker player?


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: tikay on October 17, 2013, 09:26:48 AM

and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was.......Dave

Damn!




What tape is it TK ? Is it done kind if video that Dave teach poker player?

Hi Frankie.

It is called "Stan", & my quote were the closing lines of the lyrics.

You must be an Eminem fan, surely? Well Dave IS Eminem, I suspect. He is.


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on October 17, 2013, 10:28:47 AM

and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was.......Dave

Damn!




What tape is it TK ? Is it done kind if video that Dave teach poker player?

Hi Frankie.

It is called "Stan", & my quote were the closing lines of the lyrics.

You must be an Eminem fan, surely? Well Dave IS Eminem, I suspect. He is.


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY

I am so bad in understanding all this thing . See down DTD next weekend :-)


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: tikay on October 17, 2013, 10:30:00 AM

and in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was.......Dave

Damn!




What tape is it TK ? Is it done kind if video that Dave teach poker player?

Hi Frankie.

It is called "Stan", & my quote were the closing lines of the lyrics.

You must be an Eminem fan, surely? Well Dave IS Eminem, I suspect. He is.


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY

I am so bad in understanding all this thing . See down DTD next weekend :-)

Ha!

You got your seat yet?

Is the daughter playing, too?


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on October 17, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
Lol TK . Can play as can't make it that early . But will come done for cash .


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
Ha! You know I considered 4betting preflop :-P

You are all right though preflop is too loose as if demonstrated by the fact we flopped an OESD and a FD and we had to fold, further emphasising the point that big pots in PLO is about big cards - Hi there Tikay :-P

Now spose this was just a single raised pot...otb with this hand you calling/folding/3betting ??

I'm a sucker for double paired hands!


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: tikay on October 17, 2013, 01:19:57 PM
Ha! You know I considered 4betting preflop :-P

You are all right though preflop is too loose as if demonstrated by the fact we flopped an OESD and a FD and we had to fold, further emphasising the point that big pots in PLO is about big cards - Hi there Tikay :-P

Now spose this was just a single raised pot...otb with this hand you calling/folding/3betting ??

I'm a sucker for double paired hands!

;)

If it is anything except a fun or social game, no, I'm binning it pre. I don't need these kind of headaches down the streets.

If we cut out our unforced errors, life gets so much easier. I'm all for the easy ride, there's enough problems without making our own, you seen the price of eggs lately?

The double paired thing, I know what you mean, too, my weakness is suited aces. If I could have resisted getting involved with suited aces, I'd be a very rich man by now.


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: GreekStein on October 21, 2013, 09:17:28 PM
I feel like one of the old boys here too


Title: Re: More PLO.
Post by: Skgv on October 23, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
Here is a spot that gets a lot of people into a lot of trouble...

GAME #5176799393: Omaha  PL €2/€4 2013-10-15 17:42:40
Table Kilbricken
Seat 1: peterstone12 (€410.37 in chips)
Seat 3: bshee (€200.00 in chips)
Seat 5: confusedturk1 (€527.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Lil Dave (€872.90 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: Frodo0Baggins (€489.00 in chips)
Seat 10: MRhusseinAA (€400.00 in chips)
Frodo0Baggins: Post SB €2.00
MRhusseinAA: Post BB €4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lil Dave [ 3c 3h 4c 4h]
peterstone12: Raise (NF) €14.00
confusedturk1: Raise (NF) €48.00
Lil Dave: Call €48.00
Frodo0Baggins: Fold
MRhusseinAA: Fold
peterstone12: Call €34.00
*** FLOP *** [5h 6c 10c]
peterstone12: Check
confusedturk1: Bet €135.00
Lil Dave:

Pot is €150.00. peterstone12 been playing very loose and confusedturk is a pretty aggressive regular.

You stacking off?
Actually amazed if u didn't stack off wt stacks not deep? Personally folding pre flop or 4 betting fist pumping gambling in this spot!
I guess if u put him on aces wt him holing the flush draw as well u r in a bad spot that's why cold calling the 3 bet puts u in a guessing game.