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Title: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: Oxford_HRV on October 30, 2013, 04:17:34 AM
the big 27, this table is mostly nitty. just a standard solid table with no one playing OOL. Mid position opens, BTN 3balls. ITM 120 left.
 
the more i re-read this, on the face of it, it looks like such a easy shove pre, maybe it is, maybe its not.

only noteable history with villain is me 3b btn to his co open, he 4's i fold. maybe an hour previous.

Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Oleg787 (48590 in chips)
Seat 2: AsjBaaaf (25292 in chips)
Seat 3: HajiWest (45206 in chips)
Seat 4: Bushman (28793 in chips)
Seat 5: JugglingAA (323 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Technosphera (53043 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO (37244 in chips)
Seat 8: 61PokerGott (25805 in chips)
Seat 9: 74sharktale (21000 in chips)
Oleg787: posts the ante 175
AsjBaaaf: posts the ante 175
HajiWest: posts the ante 175
Bushman: posts the ante 175
JugglingAA: posts the ante 175
Technosphera: posts the ante 175
HERO: posts the ante 175
61PokerGott: posts the ante 175
74sharktale: posts the ante 175
HERO: posts small blind 700
61PokerGott: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kc Ac]
74sharktale: folds
Oleg787: folds
AsjBaaaf: folds
HajiWest: raises 1400 to 2800
Bushman: folds
JugglingAA: folds
Technosphera: raises 4200 to 7000
HERO: calls 7000
61PokerGott: folds
HajiWest: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 6h Jc]
HERO: checks
Technosphera: checks
*** TURN *** [7d 6h Jc] [Js]
HERO: checks
Technosphera: bets 6921

HELP PLEASE :(


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 30, 2013, 04:23:30 AM
I probably 4b / call rather than shove like 13455 hoping they spaz with AQ etc


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: lucky_scrote on October 30, 2013, 12:53:30 PM
There is nothing else you can do other than shove. No point inducing because you will be putting in such a large % of your stack it will probably only look stronger anyway.


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: youthnkzR on October 30, 2013, 02:03:22 PM
There is nothing else you can do other than shove. No point inducing because you will be putting in such a large % of your stack it will probably only look stronger anyway.

Agreed because;

I probably 4b / call rather than shove like 13455 hoping they spaz with AQ etc

If we do this, this happens:

bust the 1k 8max.

MP opens to 600 @ 150 / 300. BTN 3bs to 1500. We cold 4 Ad Kd to 3000 playing 9.1k total. button CALLS! (Btn is massive whale running 40/28/11 - hence the 3b instead of jam). Qxx flop we bet/call.

He flatted Q8 we didn't improve GG



Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: lucky_scrote on October 30, 2013, 03:01:55 PM
There is nothing else you can do other than shove. No point inducing because you will be putting in such a large % of your stack it will probably only look stronger anyway.

Agreed because;

I probably 4b / call rather than shove like 13455 hoping they spaz with AQ etc

If we do this, this happens:

bust the 1k 8max.

MP opens to 600 @ 150 / 300. BTN 3bs to 1500. We cold 4 Ad Kd to 3000 playing 9.1k total. button CALLS! (Btn is massive whale running 40/28/11 - hence the 3b instead of jam). Qxx flop we bet/call.

He flatted Q8 we didn't improve GG



Haha that's only being results orientated. Something I love doing massive peeling whales is 4bet an amount that leaves a pot bet left and jam any board (apart from when you flop a pair obv).


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: Oxford_HRV on October 30, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
There is nothing else you can do other than shove. No point inducing because you will be putting in such a large % of your stack it will probably only look stronger anyway.

indeed the only thing to do, i just spazzed out!

i'm too used to playing short, and not really good at MTT's, is GII with 25bb+ always standard/good? at what stack depths and buy ins should we be calling or 4b?


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: lucky_scrote on October 30, 2013, 05:31:26 PM
There is nothing else you can do other than shove. No point inducing because you will be putting in such a large % of your stack it will probably only look stronger anyway.

indeed the only thing to do, i just spazzed out!

i'm too used to playing short, and not really good at MTT's, is GII with 25bb+ always standard/good? at what stack depths and buy ins should we be calling or 4b?

Normally with 20bbs and less there is no maneuverability so you just 3bet jam rather than click it or peel. You don't usually peel because if your hand is good enough it's better to just 3bet jam instead.

If say CO opens 60% of pots and you have 25bb on the button with 10% antes then you can jam really, REALLY wide and show a profit.


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: Oxford_HRV on November 03, 2013, 11:41:53 PM
i was wondering if we could shove over turn bet? does it look strong Vs villain's range taking this line?


Title: Re: AK GREEN IN SMALL
Post by: The Squid on November 04, 2013, 04:44:02 AM
Jam is super standard. Your play is so hood tho. You can just call down now and you make so many chips. I might start doing this!!!!!