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Title: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: jjandellis on November 04, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
$8.80 1R1A Early doors

Initial raiser 44/4
Villain 16/16 3b% 11.1


http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer Game#106504909964

Thielitsch ($5,775)
HERO($5,175)
Ham_Fra_DK ($14,725)
ToTeU48 ($3,014)
iraiseufold5 ($6,308)
DBGB124 ($2,671)
Monoc3ros ($5,431)
S__var79 ($6,000)
fold_em_sho7 ($5,780)

Thielitsch posts (SB) $100
HERO posts (BB) $200

Dealt to HERO Qs  Qd 
fold, fold, fold,
DBGB124 raises to $600
fold, fold,
fold_em_sho7 raises to $5,780 (AI)
fold,
HERO ?????

Before we snap him off what range u putting him on...and why the huge shove? Previous history with IR??

Is it even a snap? Offered 46% pot odds...

QQ v aa,kk,aks,ako is 39.86%

Are good players hugely shoving their premiums that much now?

Shover's OPR:

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/fold_em_sho7/poker/statistics/F89CDB8FBA1A4498974EEBBB396DA687.html?t=8 (http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/fold_em_sho7/poker/statistics/F89CDB8FBA1A4498974EEBBB396DA687.html?t=8)


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 04, 2013, 07:10:56 PM
eurgh. Im calling, i have a QQ and the reasoning for my argument is i just think people jam other hands more often than they jam AA/KK. I wouldn't put his range as narrow as you have therefore im guessing i could justify it with numbers also.


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: pleno1 on November 04, 2013, 07:37:02 PM
huh, im absolutely delighted to call here, like fist pumping it in and expecting to see dominated pairs often and v rarely kk or better.


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: NoCardDSC on November 04, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
i'm getting this in pretttttttty quickly


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: pleno1 on November 04, 2013, 08:07:46 PM
probably like 77-tt, ajs or something.


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: The Squid on November 04, 2013, 08:25:01 PM
You're gonna be beat some percentage of the time but the structure of this tournament is very fast, it's pretty much a turbo and a reg is gonna respond by taking every spot available. We still beat his range.


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: cambridgealex on November 04, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
he had AA didnt he


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: lucky_scrote on November 04, 2013, 08:47:46 PM
Agree with Sammy about the 8cubed, it's very fast which means that you need to take smaller edges here.

The guy who jams is a big winner but he's been break even for ages, looks like some early binks. I'd sharkscope someone if it was a close decision but this is never a close decision. It's really dumb if he has AA KK, totally illogical to jam here so I am going to guess he has a ton of dominated pairs and maybe he is being silly with AK.

BTW if he does show up with AA KK then it's worth a note.


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: cambridgealex on November 04, 2013, 08:50:29 PM
This isn't a small edge! Fistpump call regardless of tournament imo


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: paulhouk03 on November 04, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Fold em fo sho


Title: Re: Is this guy good, crazy or what?
Post by: cambridgealex on November 04, 2013, 09:23:08 PM
This isn't a small edge! Fistpump call regardless of tournament imo

I believe Dans saying that u have to take small edges in this tourney...hence why guy jams ATs.....not my decision

Ah ok