Title: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 05, 2013, 11:48:49 PM I have watched a few tutorials and stuff and think I should be alright to build one myself having not done it before. Going tomorrow to pick up the components (they have already been checked for compatibility etc), does anyone have any last minute advice for me? This can include don't do it, its a terrible idea......
Is saving the £100 or whatever just to build it myself worth it? Anything I should consider before I start? Thanks in advance. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 12:03:06 AM I would always flick in the £100 for peace of mind, so that I know there is nothing to worry about, and if anything goes wrong I'm covered.
Good luck mate! Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Graham C on November 06, 2013, 12:09:35 AM Last time I looked at a new PC (late last year) the difference between getting a company to build it (I used Cyberpower Systems) and building it myself was negligible, just got them to do it. I don't mind building them, they're fairly straight forward, it just wasn't worth it for me.
And as Mark mentioned, a few quid for peace of mind is worth it. On the other hand, it's a nice project to do if you've never built one. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 12:37:38 AM Last time I looked at a new PC (late last year) the difference between getting a company to build it (I used Cyberpower Systems) and building it myself was negligible, just got them to do it. LOL ty. Another reason to waste 3 hours and now I'm back to square one!!!!! Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: RED-DOG on November 06, 2013, 12:41:13 AM I built my own WC. (It was a piece of piss.)
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: AndrewT on November 06, 2013, 01:12:41 AM Whilst it's a great sense of achievement in putting together your own PC, it's worth flicking in the money just to get the cables all tidy, rather than the spaghetti explosion that my home built computer had inside it.
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 01:17:38 AM This site looks extremely reasonable. And £50 for guaranteed next day build and delivery is much better than the £100 I was looking at for within 5 days!!! Just need someone to check the components for me as I think the processors in some of the systems are the old generation ones. All about the Haswell yo....
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 01:25:39 AM This was a thread bumped by jjandellis last week that may be useful http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57820.0
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 01:47:07 AM http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Infinity_Achilles_GT (http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Infinity_Achilles_GT)
This is what I was looking at. Would swop the case for the CoolerMaster HAF-X Full Tower Gaming Case Get rid of the water cooling and for for the old school air / thermo paste approach and upgrade the PSU to the 1050W. Would also max out the case fans too and get rid of windows 8 and have 7. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 02:02:02 AM Way over my head, but for that kind of money I'd want it to play for me too :)
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 02:06:24 AM Way over my head, but for that kind of money I'd want it to play for me too :) If you believe all the recent hype about HUDs then you'll already know that's exactly what it will do ;D Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: teamonkey on November 06, 2013, 07:47:49 AM i just looked at it and though "f*ck me, £1500 for a PC!!!"
but then i had a second thought: some folks play poker for a living, either a primary or secondary living, and some like me play for entertainment. so if someone who makes their food/rent out of this game wants to spend more on a PC than i do on a (second) car, why shouldnt he/she fact is, if you need to spend a lot to make your "work" better/easier/more enjoyable, then why not do it? a lot of folks spend way too much on throw away items, and if they tracked what they were doing it would probably shock them, but investing in something where you should earn that money back in a reasonable time frame, and still have an awesome set up for Mick PS, on the other hand, were you really going to spend £1400 on a self build??????????? Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 11:51:18 AM How's this for a way to go about business. They offer next day build and shipping which is £50. They offer 3 day build and shipping which is £30. I won't be at home on Friday so I asked if they would deliver on Saturday. He said yes but the courier charge them £15. OK, so if I put the next day on the delivery, then can you build it this week and ship it for delivery on Saturday, the extra £20 will cover the Saturday courier. NO, NO DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING.
Ok so I'm not sure I'm getting this right. I'm about to place an order with you for £1.5k, I've even offered to pay MORE than the asking price for the shipping, and you can't be arsed to build it in two days (even though you have the capacity to ship it tomorrow)? Seriously? Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 12:34:11 PM Way over my head, but for that kind of money I'd want it to play for me too :) If you believe all the recent hype about HUDs then you'll already know that's exactly what it will do ;D Haha, if only they did :D How's this for a way to go about business. They offer next day build and shipping which is £50. They offer 3 day build and shipping which is £30. I won't be at home on Friday so I asked if they would deliver on Saturday. He said yes but the courier charge them £15. OK, so if I put the next day on the delivery, then can you build it this week and ship it for delivery on Saturday, the extra £20 will cover the Saturday courier. NO, NO DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING. Ok so I'm not sure I'm getting this right. I'm about to place an order with you for £1.5k, I've even offered to pay MORE than the asking price for the shipping, and you can't be arsed to build it in two days (even though you have the capacity to ship it tomorrow)? Seriously? Take the spec to the other company posted by jjandellis, and see what kind of deal they can do for you? Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: mondatoo on November 06, 2013, 02:09:04 PM Overkill itt.
No need to spend anywhere near that much if it's just to roll your face on the keyboard. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 02:27:46 PM OK I ordered to following components:
Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper Black Full Tower Gaming Case 1000W be quiet! Power Zone Modular Power Supply GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) ATX Motherboard Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail Noctua NH-D14 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series 2.5" SATA 6GB/s (SATA-III) Solid State Drive SSD Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce 3x OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card LiteOn DH-4O3S-04-B 4x Internal BD-ROM Blu-ray Going to try and buid it myself and I have some back up expertise on hand should I run into any trouble. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 02:48:46 PM Already ordered?? Did u see my thread: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57820.15 (http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57820.15) Its handling 18 tables a piece of p*ss; also deals with HEM along with different poker sites all running at once...plus I've been online at same time. Still rapid. Yeh but with table ninja 2 running aero it crashes at about 18 tables. Plus I used it for a ton of other stuff (work, recording videos, gaming etc) so I really dont mind spending the money. Even my current alienware setup starts to struggle at around 20 and crashes at 25 tables. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Graham C on November 06, 2013, 03:46:01 PM You'd do worse than pick up a 2tb (or something) HDD as a second hard drive to store the files on, 250gb SSD will fill up quickly, especially with videos, games and music on top of the normal programs you will use.
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 04:00:18 PM You'd do worse than pick up a 2tb (or something) HDD as a second hard drive to store the files on, 250gb SSD will fill up quickly, especially with videos, games and music on top of the normal programs you will use. Thats OK I have a 1TB external for stuff like that. But I don't download music and videos (just watch everything on Netflix, Lovefilm, NowTV etc). In all the time ive had this laptop with a 320GB drive I've never exceeded 100GB. About once a month I just sit a delete stuff and do disk cleanup, right weirdo with computers me. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: pleno1 on November 06, 2013, 04:56:16 PM just get apple imo, so so so good. runs so well.
imac screens are amazing too and thunderbolts give you the eprfect set up. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 06, 2013, 04:57:57 PM Apples no good for 180's. And also, what software are you using cause you cant use a zoom HUD on an apple?
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 06, 2013, 05:09:22 PM GL mate! My computer knowledge is semi-decent although I've never built one. I have replaced quite a few different components and I don't think it would be too difficult. Plus, it will be fun and a learning experience!
I am sure you can spend £500 and get a high end computer (for poker) these days. The computer I have atm is 6 years old, cost me £800 in parts and my mate built it (was compared to a £1500 pc in the shops) and was the bees knees back then. POS now and I need an upgrade. Let me know how you get on! Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: teamonkey on November 06, 2013, 08:07:34 PM OK I ordered to following components: Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper Black Full Tower Gaming Case 1000W be quiet! Power Zone Modular Power Supply GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) ATX Motherboard Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail Noctua NH-D14 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series 2.5" SATA 6GB/s (SATA-III) Solid State Drive SSD Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce 3x OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card LiteOn DH-4O3S-04-B 4x Internal BD-ROM Blu-ray Going to try and buid it myself and I have some back up expertise on hand should I run into any trouble. whats the cost of this then???? Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 10:49:16 AM The parts will be delivered at 2pm today so will provide a report, hopefully with pictures later.
whats the cost of this then???? Like, 1.2 ballpark. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 02:13:44 PM Alright shits here, GL_TODAY
Apparently thats the stuff for a whole computer :/ Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: Marky147 on November 07, 2013, 02:32:35 PM Good luck m8!
Be worth >100 for me not to have the headache :D Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: mondatoo on November 07, 2013, 02:35:54 PM Good luck m8! Be worth >100 for me not to have the headache :D This. Nitnitnitnitnitnitnitnit. Pics when it blows up please. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 02:38:36 PM Good luck m8! Be worth >100 for me not to have the headache :D Cheers. Gotta have a laugh though, I do have some expertise on hand to Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: pleno1 on November 07, 2013, 04:55:07 PM Apples no good for 180's. And also, what software are you using cause you cant use a zoom HUD on an apple? You just use boot amp and have windows. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 07, 2013, 06:13:25 PM If you find this easy enough I'm going to build my first pc next week! Will spend a bit less though.
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: mondatoo on November 07, 2013, 06:31:15 PM If you find this easy enough I'm going to build my first pc next week! Will spend a bit less though. Insane that you've had the same PC for six years, I buy a new one every two years roughly, think it's a must considering money lost if there's any problems. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 07, 2013, 06:37:07 PM If you find this easy enough I'm going to build my first pc next week! Will spend a bit less though. Insane that you've had the same PC for six years, I buy a new one every two years roughly, think it's a must considering money lost if there's any problems. Like I posted, my computer was way ahead of it's time when my mate built it for me. In 2006 the E6300 Core 2 duo was released and I had 8800GTX cards in SLI with 2 gig of ram. Overclocked the cpu to shit and my computer was the nuts. For about 3 years you couldn't really get better than my computer unless you spent a grand but in the last 3/4 years it seems to have fallen way behind. On top of the fact I am badly in need of a reformat and have lost my windows cd means that I will just start from scratch. I don't know what you are doing wrong if you need a new pc every 2 years. Quite often it's just one part that needs replacing. I've replaced the gfx card 3 times in 6 years but that's fairly standard I think. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: mondatoo on November 07, 2013, 06:43:21 PM If you find this easy enough I'm going to build my first pc next week! Will spend a bit less though. Insane that you've had the same PC for six years, I buy a new one every two years roughly, think it's a must considering money lost if there's any problems. Like I posted, my computer was way ahead of it's time when my mate built it for me. In 2006 the E6300 Core 2 duo was released and I had 8800GTX cards in SLI with 2 gig of ram. Overclocked the cpu to shit and my computer was the nuts. For about 3 years you couldn't really get better than my computer unless you spent a grand but in the last 3/4 years it seems to have fallen way behind. On top of the fact I am badly in need of a reformat and have lost my windows cd means that I will just start from scratch. I don't know what you are doing wrong if you need a new pc every 2 years. Quite often it's just one part that needs replacing. I've replaced the gfx card 3 times in 6 years but that's fairly standard I think. I don't need one, but it's worthwhile for how much I use it, my old PC works alright but was starting to struggle with the grind, I think it's money well spent. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 07, 2013, 06:46:33 PM If you find this easy enough I'm going to build my first pc next week! Will spend a bit less though. Insane that you've had the same PC for six years, I buy a new one every two years roughly, think it's a must considering money lost if there's any problems. Like I posted, my computer was way ahead of it's time when my mate built it for me. In 2006 the E6300 Core 2 duo was released and I had 8800GTX cards in SLI with 2 gig of ram. Overclocked the cpu to shit and my computer was the nuts. For about 3 years you couldn't really get better than my computer unless you spent a grand but in the last 3/4 years it seems to have fallen way behind. On top of the fact I am badly in need of a reformat and have lost my windows cd means that I will just start from scratch. I don't know what you are doing wrong if you need a new pc every 2 years. Quite often it's just one part that needs replacing. I've replaced the gfx card 3 times in 6 years but that's fairly standard I think. I don't need one, but it's worthwhile for how much I use it, my old PC works alright but was starting to struggle with the grind, I think it's money well spent. It sounds like you just need to reformat. I can 16-18 table fine (I never try more than this) now. I did used to have some problems but I added a couple of gigs of ram for £50 and the problem is gone. I know that you need a decent computer, but I think buying a new one every 2 years is pretty excessive! That money could go towards a bad session of poker instead :P. Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 09:26:38 PM BOOM!!! We have lift off....
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 10:16:48 PM Will update on whether or not it continues to work in the coming week.....
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 07, 2013, 10:19:17 PM I don't know how much experience you have with computers but you should be barefoot putting this thing together. I've read that wearing socks whilst handling some of the peripherals can send a charge to them and damage them. Might be a load of bollox but you never know.
Also, sort those bloody wires out! It's like spaghetti junction in there! Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 10:23:45 PM Yeh you can get an anti-static wrist strap that you connect to the power source to earth any static. There were no earthing methods used in the construction of this machine. Will tidy it up when I have a bit more time. Would highly recommend getting a full sized gaming tower though, makes it infinitely easier to get your hands in and have plenty of 'wiggle room'.
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: paulhouk03 on November 07, 2013, 11:27:04 PM Ur fan for ur processor is huge
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 07, 2013, 11:30:20 PM Ur fan for ur processor is huge Yeh I know. No-one said anything when I was ordering it. Suppose I was just subliminally making up for something.... Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2013, 11:53:45 PM Ur fan for ur processor is huge Yeh I know. No-one said anything when I was ordering it. Suppose I was just subliminally making up for something.... A blow job? Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: lucky_scrote on November 11, 2013, 01:28:50 PM Hows it going?
Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 11, 2013, 04:12:02 PM Hows it going? Extremely well thanks. Transferring all my stuff over is taking its time but the computer is absolutely rapid. Dont really know how to put it into context but it gets 7.9 for everything on the Windows Experience Index thing..... Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: edgascoigne on November 11, 2013, 09:11:17 PM You built an actual computer, that's pretty strong.
Wd on 'volunteering' to answer technical questions via PM for the coming weeks/months/years!! Title: Re: Building My Own PC Post by: theprawnidentity on November 11, 2013, 09:16:14 PM It's seriously easy, its like lego. You cant really fuck it up cause all the components only fit into the right slots and all the cables are labelled and theres a pretty handy instruction manual if you're still not sure. I'm sure theres still people here who are far better equiped to handle your techincal queries than I, though I would of course respond to PM's should the time arise when you need an amateur to sort the job out.
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