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In a vacuum which is the best/your preferred play and why? No reads on anyone,

UTG+1 opens to 60 at 10/20 3k effective in a tournament and we have  Ac 4c UTG+2

call, 3bet or fold?

call

lets try and make a wheel/flush :)

I always fold

Me too. Win a small pot or lose a big one.

I would say with this hand it's win a big pot or lose a small one? Just don't do your brains on an ak4 board etc

Call hit the flop of course

Fold

For me

165

When he makes it 375, what's the plan then Patrick? utg raise 3x ... Feels strong to me. He's rarely going to fold for another 105 playing deep, we're gonna miss / hit trouble flops often, I don't like a 3 bet here. Tell me why I'm wrong?

Well this should settle the argument then?

All options covered. Hehe.

Love Blonde.

Foldings for me.

no i usually fold here, but do call sometimes but occasionally 3bet too. Would rather go 6 way with A4cc than 87cc.

I prefer a fold, great multi-way hand but we're in the wrong position and circumstances to be calling/raising here, no idea what's going to happen behind us or how strong the opener is, and in a vacuum the opener should be way ahead of us

Anything else you need settling tom just let us know ;)

Call, but I'm a station innit ;)

I treat these sorts of hands kinda like I would small pairs. I'm looking to make two pair against a bigger A, make a better flush, make a kinda weird straight, make three of a kind with a dominating kicker... Mining :) As long as you don't have a problem folding an A high board, or not going to crazy on gay run outs with two pair, then I love playing these hands. Rumour has it this TL chap is a sicko, so shouldn't be a problem there :)

pretty interesting everyone having such differing opinions about this spot. Why do you like doing what you do?

interesting, your glass is half empty, mine would be half full.

This is online right.
I fold cos u need to flop hard to get paid

Also don't wanna get squozed and be oop

oh figured live, folding yeah, too likely to get 3b

Call big 33 and below. Fold 75% 3b 10% call 15 Big 55+ just depends on tbl and fish etc

So true.

Also, must be more fun things to discuss. Can't begin to imagine where this would feature on my list of things to discuss :D

meh think we v v rarely get 3bet here, people probably 3betting qq plus.

UTG+1 i will fold most of the time but in better postion i will call and try too hit hard

With a gun to my head and a knife to my throat i might fold.

You can make better than average flushes with this hand.

Then why are we 3b'ing?

Fold for me btw.

I meant I'd rather 3b 87cc than a4cc after thinking about it.

I said calling is best and my friend said 3betting is best, folding was out the question, nits itt :p I also think we get squeeze bluffed so so rarely so dont have to worry about it too much.

It's becoming a lot more common to peel here and not have a 3 bet in your range vs your average monkey. People been peeling aces here for an age but everyone is catching onto it now which means that people squeeze behind a lot less often and are a lot more inclined to peel TT/JJ AQs etc instead of squeeze.

Peel obv.

What else do you think we should peel?

Really strong hands and hands that flop well. Prob peel all pairs but fold AQo. Maybe peel suited broadways.

30% chance of QQ+ or AK being out at a fullring table on any 1 orbit, the chance of you getting squeezed for value is pretty high, ur oop and online players play better than live. We can just call and expect to be profitable oop in a 3b pot.

really? wow seems mental. folding makes more sense then ofc

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That seems like it should be something I should already know!

FWIW I don't think it makes a difference to this hand. Having 2940 chips is exactly the same as having 3000 so w/e

QQ+ AQ+ surely?

Anyway there is still no chance of you getting squeezed bluffed as your hand is shit

Pinchop does gif classes, plz get signed up.

guess thts why full ring is nit ring

If everyone is peeling and 3-betting here you should probably be playing more tables.

Hahahaha, how does this go without a mention?

Lol at mr squid's subtle remark, definitely in Team Squid on this one