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Been playing for 3 hours and nearly at the bubble:
Hero: 17.1k
villain: 16.4k
blinds are 500/1000/100
He raise MP to 2000 hero in the BB with  8c 9c folds round hero calls
flop:  2c 7c Js hero checks villain bets 2134 hero?
how would you play from here?

also i meant ITOPS haha

fold pre. GL now

not overly sure id be calling 17bbs with 89 pre flop from a MP raise, playing a similar stack. Now we have, never folding. Shoving here personally.

def def not folding pre can c-rip a lot of boards and hand is pretty good. for like 13 id fold, obv ripping now though, gl.

fold now ldo

thanks all see both sides pre i don't really mind a call especially since im not in for a min cash. Was basically all in 5 ways next hand with 23o made a straight, then shipped 3BB with AJo to be called by K4o obv no fold equity and him hit a king GG.

you folded the  9c 8c??

no i check shoved he called with  Ac Jh and held even though  8h came on the turn siggh but i was down to like nothing after

I think folding pre is correct unless its versus a late position open.

Wait a minute how is flop even a question?

dont think it is? still think its a fold pre, to a guy with a similar stack, from MP open

It's 1000'to win 4500ish right? Our stack changes almost not at all with losing 1bb but winning the 4500 plus potentially. A cbet fold could be 50% of our stack. Hand plays really well too.

I'd never fold but happy to be told differently.

to be honest like pleno said i looked at it as I'm getting 4 to 1 on my call pre, the flop that came was actually the sort of flop I'm looking for as i said a min cash wasn't priority building a stack was. Say a  Ahrt Qd 4h flop came i just check fold no harm done but a club drops on the turn, i then have above average chips and can crush my table.

folding pre would be terrible with a hand this good

calling pre everyday its not even a question.

c/r all in.

He folds a ton and if not get there.

Definitely flatting pre, the impact on our stack is minimal given the bet sizing and bb invested, think it's really nitty to fold in this spot. Obvs needs discipline to be able to fold on an Ace Nine Deuce flop, etc. Post flop, gotta go broke, c/r all seems best play for the fold equity ; don't even mind a donk lead as we're calling it off regardless

Played the hand fine imo. c/j flop all day.

for my two cents, i'd call pre and lose all my chips on that flop happily

Not folding on A92 board either.

OP played hand fine. It's an amazing spot. If it's an open from EP and it's a massive nit then it's prob a fold.


The wider the OR's range the better because you are looking to check jam a ton of boards.

And forgot to mention the obvious, I rip pre vs anyone who opens late and has a normal looking steal attempt %.

I did think about shoving pre as everyone was so lose in this, but also meant i was getting called light. He would absolutely called with AJo so cant really shove but unanimous that the rest was standard thanks thought :)

We don't jam in the hope that he's folding AJ, we jam because we think he's opening wide enough that it's profitable and we just get there vs AJ.

Yeah i understand that we are jamming for the fold equity we will take this down a lot but don't think he's folding any hand he opened this is why i prefer a peel then check/jam most boards.

He's not folding anything he's opened with??? Do you want to think about what you just said?

If he's opening quite tight then that's fine, but if it's someone who is capable of opening still fairly wide then there is no way he is calling everything he opens with. If he's opening a moderate 20% from MP then no way he is calling your jam with 33, A5s, KTs etc. There is just such a wide range of hands he folds and on top of that, 98s is going to have 35% against his calling range so he hardly needs to fold THAT much.

BTW not saying that it's fine to jam in this exact spot. If he opens 20% and calls 10% here then according to some calculations it's a break even jam. Def prefer peeling in this spot and look to check jam to win even more.

Okay that was a bit OTT saying he's folding nothing, but he would have called me with any pair, any ace, KQ etc.... my hole table were just getting 20-30BB in with complete junk it was jokes

WAL if your whole table were getting it in super light for 30bigs, I can't say that it's quite this literal but if it is then you need to get more chips and get some good hands :D. Not often you see people raise calling A2o and 22 for these stacks, but if they are (and it doesn't happen often) then you need to play hands purely for value and look to check jam really wide for value.

That's why i like the flat pre,then check jam a lot of flops one's that miss his range and also one's that hit ours. It was pretty ridic for a $55 torno though saw someone limp call 35BB with A6o was so nice to watch haha....

Never fold pre. Probably just rip it.

i want to c/c flop, eeek.

There is far too much in there vs our equity imho Alex.