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Same tourney as other hand so £200 live and we have chipped up without showdown to 45k from 30k and in the last 45mins Sam Razavi has sat down and been splashing around.

Villain 1 - Fairly tight, mid/late 30s smart in appearance and has played with a cpl of people who play the circuit as I heard in conversation.  30k at start of hand
Villain 2  - Sam Razavi  22500

Blinds 150/300

Villain 1 opens utg2 to 700, Sam peels next to act all fold to us in BB with  7s Ts and I peel.  Sometimes I feel this is a leak of mine but maybe not as much in this spot?

Flop  Aspades Kh 9s (2250)

I chk, villain1 1700, sam calls, I call

Turn  Jd  (7350)

I chk, villain1 chks, Sam bets 2700, I call, villain1 folds.    Anyone chk raising here or taking the price?

River   8c  (12750)

Sam has 17400 back.  I check

Like?

Like it all.

Loving life pre btw

I actually like it all. That can't be right????

I defo don't think its a leak in any way, shape or form to peel this deep and relative positon

I play it the same way and c/eyeball river. Personally not c/ring turn on this board. His turn sizing is kinda small and I don't think he is massively strong, esp with your splashing around comment, though he is probably good enough to know this

I guess you COULD bomb river for a decent amount but I dunno if he would believe you were blasting a missed draw?

Your getting a fair amount of check backs I'd imagine but when you do get paid you could well get stacks. Seems fair.

seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre

Just realised he rivered a straight! I don't mind checking, Sam looks really strong and is going to bet all 2 pairs. Problem is he's going to fold to a check jam most of the time because it looks hilariously strong unless OP's image is crazy.

Certainly an argument for betting the river but otherwise I think hand is played good.

Why nut spot? People don't actually bluff all that often with a c/call c/call donk line when the FD misses. And vlikely Eso will have SDV will missed draw anyway given the board so I don't think Sam will see it as a bluff.

Sam doesnt know us right? and with that tache we are gona look like a massive punter  ;whistle;. Also his sizing ott makes his range so 1 pair heavy thats checking back the river a ton imo and how many value hands can we actually have that play like this? I also dont expect him to go round making hero folds in a 200 freeze

Sam may not recognize us with the tache but knows us from a few UKIPT's we played and we have spoken about his brothers so we are not completely unknown

how big ott till we fold?

The bigger the bet the more likely it is we get paid. ~5k?

Seems fine to me, might lead for like 4.5k looking for a call of a weaker A, think Sam has A10 here alot, but prolly check a fair amount of the time too.

Yh in this particular spot I have quite a lot of chips so can maybe call not getting exactly the right price knowing we are getting stacks on rivers if we hit so was thinking around 5k

If I really thought about it, I would bet the river and make it look like the missed flush draw. We never get called with a check raise, so we are better off betting more. That would be my logic, anyway.

In Sam's spot, what would you bet/call with?

Will say you've played this hand better than I would have (natch...)

think its a decent spot to the lead the river. reps a missed flush draw,(which it is  ;whistle;), so i think you could get paid by a decent amount of hands here, especially as you described the guy as being a 'little splashy' on the table so far. Might get more by leading the river, as his calling range will be a lot wider than his range calling off a check jam

i mean im nto sure we ever get stacks when we improve though, spades and one liners hes going to check back, 8 is a good one though, disguised.

Do people ever lead river as a bluff? He can have a set of nines a set of Jacks and presumably on occasion a set of Aces or Kings - all of which he'll bet.

TBF his most likely hand is AQ and it puts him in a tough spot but a lead is SO unbalanced.

I like it all including checking river.

Think its pretty ridiculous to say a check raise is NEVER getting called and I think hes going to value bet almost everything that he's going to call the river with. Your range doesn't look that strong either so he can very easily decide to bluff river here also, potentially pretty big as well

Thanks for all the replies

I checked the river as we know and Sam jammed for pot and a half roughly AI and I called winning v KJo

Your stache must make you look like a fish. Either that or it was the last train home shortly.

Ks tho so guess he was planning on bluffing with it if spades come.  Nope not last train he re-entered and bust last level of the day.

Taches ftw obv
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Really good pha IMO.... lovely spot for checking the river too... Playing in flow, keeps all his bluffs in, keeps in the option of the massive bluff AI from villain as you saw and particularly the right play against an aggro player like Sam.  The donk lead is way more often for value than to bluff the missed draw,, so I think we cap our potential value on the river to a call from most of his range when we lead. He's rarely going all in over our raise. So the risk of the check back I think is outweighed by the potential gains.

Assume everyones checking a spade too? Even though Sam's betting range narrows alot? Cuz leading a spade and not this card seems terrible

if we always raise 2 pair plus on turn vs sams sizing in sams perceived view, why is his shove otr terrible?

Even if he is winning it doesn't mean we call a jam with worse. Trying to rep missed spades I guess but who does this for 1.5x pot.

He either thinks your horrifically bad and is doing it for value, or he thinks you're really good and is doing it as a bluff.

Sigh

The No-Nonsense Squid, ladies and gentlemen

Too tired to type out a long response. Sorry.

I do want to at however that you should be peeling this hand all day long from the big. I think I like lead turn bomb river (assuming we brick) but as played I definitely like leading the river. He is going to check back so much of his range and he is a non-believer in my experience (but tbf everyone is a non-believer vs me).

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