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No one really to replace him.

Who is going to be the next manager

McLaren - no thankyou.  Has ruined Boro despite Gibsons millions.  A terrible manager and coach and as part of Eriksson's team not exactly good enough

Allardyce - Charlie Thomas (or whoever that guy was who reckoned we should play long ball) might approve but his football is not for the national team

Curbishley - not a bad shout.  Not done much wrong but not done much right either.  Maybe punching above his weight.

Bruce - u must be joking

Pearce - too inexperienced

Bobby Robson - too old

Jewell - I quite like him but he needs to prove himself at a bigger club.

Oh dear!! Dont tell me that we need to look abroad again??

And as for Eriksson - good riddance.  Even if we win the World Cup, he has not been a good manager.  And i dont want any of his defenders pointing to his win record.  The majority of these games were in weak groups in qualifiers when we were expected to win.  As for the big games he doesnt hack it (except for Germany and a penalty against Argentina).  Brazil, Portugal, Holland, Spain, Denmark, - lost to all of these.

With the 11 we have at the moment and with a proper manager / coach who can motivate this genuinely is the best squad i have seen in my lifetime (aged 32)

Problem is ERiksson doesnt know how to play them.  What was that game when he played Beckham in front of the back 4.  FFS???  Playing Rooney left wing??

Has he quit as of now for definite? or Just after the world cup?

My evening hangs on your answer....

Guus Hidink

eh is that not a wee bit contradictory...he can win the world cup and still be rubbish??

I also suspect that this is not the best "squad" you have had in 32 years...certainly a few good individuals(some of whom have gone back a tonne) but not a great squad...i would have said bobby robsons team was pretty decent and a darn sight more competetive when playing.

No after the world cup

Nem - would you be happy with a foreigner??

I think i probbaly could be but they need to show passion.  Also i do find it a bit off-putting when the anthem is played.

Also would Brazil, France or Germany have a foreigner? - i dont think so?

Problem is there is not a decent English candidate in the Hiddink, Capello, Mourinho, Wenger mould....

Ta, phew :)

This is the best squad of players ever including 1966

Indeed. It could even be argued that the 1970 squad was better than 1966.

the brilliant sensational wonderful GOD that is Martin O'Neill please

I wasn't happy initially with Eriksson being appointed as England's HC, but I just want a successful team. I can't see any reason why we cannot employ another foreigner to coach the team.

It is all for who is best for the job, I don't care which country any of the Spurs players come from, as long as the club is successful, it doesn't matter to me. You may say "club football is different to national football" but is it? I would rather have a passionless, professional, successful foreign coach, than a passionate, unsuccessful coach English coach similar to that wanker Kevin Keegan.

I want someone who is a gifted coach who can by changes of tactics influence the course of games(which I think is Erikkson's great failing), not someone who just sticks the Cross of St George on his forehead and "pumps the lads up"



Nationality is irrelevant but I don't see an English candidate I want currently

this is definately the best squad england have had in a long while, i dont think foreign managers should be allowed to manage national teams, its a joke. how can sven get excited about england beating sweden? its just wrong. chances are martin o neill will get the job

he has already ruled himself out...wife is still very ill which is whya he walked away from us..

i know, it is very sad.

but in a perfect world etc etc

a GREAT man


My club never got over his leaving.....

I suggest the Editor of the News of The World. See if that git could do better.

tighty,

he`s a great motivator and walford and robertson do the coaching and player management day to day...great team.

i think even more of him that he can walk out on his admitted dream job to care for his wife...priorities spot on.

why not paul jewell? hes done fantastic with wigan, from where they were to where they are now is out of this world, with a limited squad.  the injuries hes had is unreal, £200,000,000 team of "superstars" could only just scrape two 1-0 wins over them

i think he was interviewed and stated "i couldnt do the job with the stuff that goes along with it"

sign of intelligence there then....get him in

 :goodpost:

how he bought some of the players at Leicester for the prices he did and moulded them into a team that briefly topped the premiership and got into Europe was one of the wonders of the modern footballing age

 :goodpost:

I personally have found the red tops' Sven Lynch mob unpleasant from day one.

I'm not going to get into a debate about it but I (and many others) quite like Sven and think he's had a rough time from the media and large sections of the public. his competietive record is top notch. his attitude towards friendlys and some of the resulting ... er ... results have certainly not helped him. I don't care who he's sleeping with or who he's talking to about his future career. I think we're a lot stronger after his tenure than we were before and if he goes deep in the world cup he'll get no credit for it, however deserved it might be.

good luck to him, bloody nice bloke

for once i totally agree with nemisis on a football issue :D.

i dont think there is an english manager good enough unfortunatley. somebody posted what about paul jewell remember what he has done at wigan. Yes but remember what he also did to sheffield wednesday i few years back. i think this year has been a bit of a freak for wigan and they will struggle next year

No way - when it matters his competitive record is awful.  Its not all about win percentages as most of the games are against teh European minnows who we are expected to beat.  All big teams esp France Italy and Spain have exception records in this regard.

However in the big tournies he constantly falls way short. In 2002, he blew it against Brazil when they were down to 10 players and the group games gainst Nigeria and Denmark we didnt exactly play both teams off the pitch.

As for 2004 - Portugal was terrible - no plan B when Rooney went off injured.  Lost to France in the first game when 1-0 up with 5 mins to go.  So out of 4/5 games we lost 2!!! Not exactly a greta record

Also bear in mind 'competitive firendly results'.  Denmark (absolute disgrace), Spain (that night they played us off the park, especially Xavi and Joaquin), Holland, France and even Argentina recently we only won when they took off their best players with 10 mins to go.

His record is distinctively average and bear in mind this is a much better squad than any of us (TK apart who probably saw Stanly Matthews at his peak!) have ever seen.

Robinson
Neville
Campbell / Ferdinand
Terry
Cole
Beckham
Lampard
Gerrard
Cole
Rooney
Owen

plus - King, Wright-Phillips, Defoe, and some others

ps in 2002 i meant Nigeria and Argentina

Having taken the Dog & Duck 2nd XI from the Hyde & District Sunday League Division 6 to European cup winners in just 14 seasons i have already forwarded my CV to the FA, however i believe they will pick an English manager this time so i'm not holding my breath.......

But then being Irish i couldnt care less who they pick!!

p.s. hands off Curbs, he's going nowhere :)

The thing with Sven, I believe, is that he has been an incredibly lucky manager. He took over the squad at a time just before some young players started hitting the top of their games. It would have been difficult to see how he could have done worse than he has with the resources available.

It doesn't take a genius to pick the teams he has, yet even I would have avoided some of the mistakes he has made (sticking with James in goal so long, playing Scholes on the left, not giving SWP a start on the right at the expense of Beckham).

Maybe they should pick me for the job? I would demand a mere 60-70% of Sven's salary and would promise to stay away from wannabe celebrity FA secretaries (well, the ones over 30 years old, anyway).

Sven is a lucky manger who has always had the players at his disposal.

I think he is very below average in which the team is carrying him. To scared to drop Lampard, Gerrard or Beckham so he plays all 3.

I would like to see Scolari the Portugal manager take charge and has shown in the pass he decisions changes games.

My England Team would be

                              Robinson

G Neville           Ferdinand       Terry       A Cole

                              Parker

      Gerrard             Lampard           J Cole

             Rooney            Owen

Sorry becks you have carried England for a long time and know we are carrying you

you'd pick James? are you a mental >:?

Is John Gregory available?

I'd like to see Ledley King in that Anchor man role.

how can you play a guy there who doesn't even play there for his club side.

He is strong in the air can tackle but when he has the bakll he doesn't know what to do with it and he plays for the scum from North London and i dont mean arsenal.

Parker plays there for his club, i know he is injured, but he is tough in the tackle, can drive foward if needed but also has great distribution with his passes, cant belive ferguson or wenger didn't snap him up

He played there before and it worked a treat.

This is what friendlies should be used for, rather than just making 10 subs at half time.

he doesn't give us nothing, watch the last match when he go the ball went forward and then tried to go back because he was lost and didn't know whart to do.

Another stange decision Sven had made better holding players out there than Ledley King, any other manger wouldn't look twice at playing him, but it allows Sven to play Lamps Gerrard and Becks.

LOL

Skippy, Carrick is much better than Parker, the fact you picked James (ex-west ham, didn't leave in infamous circumstances) in front of Robinson (England's best keeper by a country mile, maybe in the top 4-5 of keepers in the world) says it all.

Remember, West Ham are Tottenhams nursery club and are excellent at developing players.

I admit i made a mistake in james lol a vbery bad one.

Carrick..... never in a milion years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :redcard:

He goes missing in the big games, he's not the best tackler but must admit his passing with both feet is the .best I've seen in the premiership and of course he is another option if it meant play Carrick instead of Ledley King.

How must Carrick feel when the centre half is playing for england in his postion lolololol

He was injured so he couldn't be picked

agreed skippy - he had one good game there ( i forget who it was against)

The very next game against decent opposition (again i forget who but someone will remid me) where he had no time on the ball, he looked out of his depth.  Not criticising King he is a great centre back, just not a holding midfielder.

Unfortunately England does not have an Ince, Keane, Vieira, makelele style player at the moment.  Parker is good but just not quite in that mould....tho would probably be a good shout.

Can we really not accommodate Becks, Gerrard, Lampard, and Cole in one midfield.  Cant we teach Gerrard and Lamps that when one goes forward the other hangs back etc....The great managers are the ones that can play a player in any position and get the most out of them.

I know i am biased but that is Wenger's greatest gift.  He turns ordinary players in to great players and great players into world class players.  Henry was a left sided winger, Toure was not a centreback, Lauren not a right back, etc etc.  

P.S

Carrick better than parker you need new glasses, he wouldn't give us the bite we need in mildfield he is like a mouse.

NEMESIS

You should of gone to Specsavers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just got £5 on berti vogts @1000-1 moments before the rush on him started some bookies now have him at 2-1 favourite after recent comments by terry venables


ok maybe i am dreaming but it a nice dream

Triple X Sven said he had tried to get Gerrard to play that holding role but he kept dissapearing driving forward, Lampard didn't cover him and left that hole exposed.

I hate Arsenal and Wenger but from a Football point of view would love to se Wenger take the role.

given that Sven broke the barrier of having a foreign manager, perhaps its time we made the move to including foreign players too ;)

I mean if Ireland and Scotland can do it why not us in England!

I agree, but Carrick is a very good player.

Nemesis do you were them sunglasses when you watch footy lol, you be telling me next Defoe is better than Owen

As A welshman I dont feel I should comment, but as a football supporter i'm goin to,

1)  you need a manager who has passion, how can you be passionate about the england team if not english?

2) England have a problem, not one person stands out - do you need two, one with the technical know how, the other with passion?

3) Stuart Pearce will provide the passion, who will provide the technichal know how?

John Barnes, Terry Butcher?

http://www.specsavers.co.uk/cgi-bin/strudwick.sh/s?langid=1&pfmt=1&siteid=39&pname=nhs.html for nemesis lol

Rod

whats the name of that Clyde manger he seems qa bit useful

berti vogts

Owen is Engalnds greatest striker of all time, so no Defoe isn't as good as Owen

But Defoe is Englands 2nd greatest striker of all time* ;)

[size=06pt]*Of course I'm joking, but don't tell Skippy[/size]

berti vogts

There isn't a baring arse smilie - but you know what I'm getting at!!

lol Rod

Nemesis you being a spurs fan it would be a statement may of us you thought was true such as....

every year we are going to finish above Arsenal  ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep;

We are going to win the F.A Cup ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep;


and qualify for Europe  ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep;

berti vogts

Ironside, if I post another picture of dina will you shut the f up?  :D

Rod, in exchange for a banana bread recipe you can borrow one of mine!!

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tight end let me think about that while i try and sublimally get berti vogts into everyones head

Cheers Matt, SKIPPY the above is for you!! :D

I certainly will not be buying the News of the World again, bunch of (http://bestsmileys.com/angry2/10.gif)
The press allways do this to our managers. the same ones were digging in to Venables background in the run up to 96 which was a factor in Tel not getting the chance to extend his contract, although this was "due to impending legalities" Then there was Turnip head, Glen's Auntie Eileen and we shoudln't forget Sir Bobby Robsons treatment by the press before he finally came good. Keegan also jumped before the press had a chance to have a go at him after the German game.

As for replacements the obvious one is Mclaren as he is trained and ready, but for recent form which has probably blown the FA's plan. Trouble is the FA will be forced to go for a saint (and I don't mean Matt le Tiss).
Me I don't care how many lovely ladies he pleasures (Ulrika & Faria, would you have said no?) or what he says to Sheiks, as long as he gets the results.
Rant over, but please don't take Psycho.  ;tightend;

Best bet is as well, all he ever said is what 90% of the population already knows!!

1)Beckham isnt happy in spain: well considering he's been over there about 4 years and still can hardly speak a word and there are constant rumours of him moving back it doesnt take a genius to work this out

2)Rooney came from a poor area: The lad's from Liverpool, again - its not rocket science

3)Owen is only back here for the money: not 100% accurate, 95% of it was the money and the other 5% was so that he got himself into the world cup squad

4)Ferdinand can be lazy at times: At times, lol there are times when i do more work in 90 minutes than he does (ok not very often.......)

5)Some football agents are crooked: well would you believe it - he'll be telling us the world isnt flat next!!!

BERTI VOGTS

I'd like Curbishly to take over, a very good manager IMO though the FA would probably put bloody Wilkinson in above him FFS!
Eriksson just isn't it, the second half against Brazil more than proved that and any manager who has 3 different captains during a game and something like 18 different players is just a waste of space as well as opportunity.
His record is not too good at all (don't forget turnipheads record was astonishingly good for England based on win ratio)
Martin O'neil is the only true class act around in recent years but sadly unavailable now

he is available he is just taking time off to be with his family but given the right job and the right time he would be free to take any job, i think he will be at a premiership club in august

IMO there are only two important factors when choosing an England manager.  90% of the team selects itself so there is no real skill involved in travelling around watching players and trying to find people to fit in like there used to be.  That just leaves :-

1) Motivation.  You need someone to inspire the team to play as a team and to play for the manager.  This requires a manager that they respect (Not an easy task with today's multi millionaire players).  I find it hard to put any foreign manager into this category, and the England manager that springs to mind as having most successfully done this is Venables (with the squad of Euro '96)

2) Tactics / Game plans.  I believe that for a team to be successful at International level you must have adaptable systems to be able to cope with the opposition.  Some people say that you shouldn't mess around with systems but surely the best players the country can come up with can handle strategic game plans.  Sven was woefully inadequate at doing this, some of tactical decisions during Euro 2004 beggared belief.

Out of the list of potential managers (discounting the foreign ones because of my first point) I put 3 in the same category Allardyce, Jewell and Curbishly.  All three get a mention as good managers at attaining success relative to the size of club they are at.  But is this enough for an International role ?  Big Sam has done wonders at Bolton by finding players on the cheap who can do a job for him, this skill is obviously redundant in the England role where the best players are already available.  That leaves Maclaren who has mixed success at Boro where he has had money available, but I think he would certainly fulfil the first requisite as I believe the players would respect him due to his current coaching role.

england were there on there own and still lost

cheers Iron.

Don't mind him at a Prem Club - but would be heart-broken if he managed England.

I think they should go for Bertie Vogts

wohooooooooooooo lets all join the berti for england get a petition up etc etc

Not sure how you can say that no foriegn manager can be be placed in this category regarding respect, Not many of the current squad would have a great deal of respect for the english names being brandished about except for stuart pearce(and that wont be for managerial reasons),  Jewell?? Dont be silly....Allerdyce?? Has done great with bolton but would we all be happy with England playing his style of football? I certainly wouldnt......Curbishley?? Not really sure he has the tactical ability for top class football (Charlton are renouned for chokeing when the going gets tough),.....Mclaren?? When he was Fergy's assistant the united players raved about his tactical ability and man management(im a united fan) so i beleve he should be involved in the backroom staff but not sure he can deal with being the main man....Pearce?? He would be my ideal dream of an England manager but......Too early, maybe in 5 years.

The only managers that would command and demand respect ARE foriegn and top of the tree is obviously Mourinho and i for one would be happy to see him take it on a "part time" basis just like Hiddink does with PSV and Australia

The others are the great Sir Alex ferguson and Hiddink himself, whos record domestically and internationaly is superb

http://new.petitiononline.com/BVEng/petition.html (http://new.petitiononline.com/BVEng/petition.html)

Ask and ye shall receive  :D

I Totally agree also, Why they decided to stitch up the nations manager(and team in the process) so close to the most important competition in the world in which we have an excellent chance of winning is a absolute disgrace,

The british press have ALWAYS had it in for sven (and to be honest he brings alot of it on himself) but there is no need to disrupt the atmosphere within the squad at this time just to sell a few extra papers, and it is always the news of the world.

They cant be football fans or they would be doing their upmost to help our nation not hinder it.


Sorry for these rants but football is my biggest passion and it really infuriates me when "outside influences" become involved and try to disrupt our national treasure.

Eh? Sven has only been in charge of england for THREE losing games in competetive matches.

23 wins 7 draws 3 losses and he is a _bad_ manager? eh?

Do me a favour, use the sun/mirror/sport/notw for what they are ( toilet paper ) and read something that isn't full of shit.

think i might have to order the N.O.W to be delievered each week infact make that 2 copies incase one turns o much with all that crying i am doing (crying with laughter)

The 1966 squad wasn't even the bast squad in 1966... Jimmy Greeves was injured before the tournament and was replaced by the man who would score the goals to bring home the bacon

 ;applause; :respect: ;applause;

i knew someone would bring out the win ratio - like i said in my first post ignore the stats - these are skewed by the weakness of the opponents in the qualifiers.

Lets talk about the defeats

2 defeats - France and Brazil - and we were winning both

the other defeat was against a bunch of league championship footballers who showed our superstars up

Defeats in friendlies to Holland, Denmark, Spain and Australia amonsgt others - and these werent your usual defeat - we were played off the park

Draw against portugal where he again showed no plan B

draw against nigeria in 2002 and draw against sweden. 

For me he has had 3 good games - the obvious one in Munich (how long can he live off this) and the Denmark in 2002 and Croatia in 2004.  Even the famous Argentina win was a lucky penalty.

When it really matters - he aint up for it

Agree Triple X and I dont read the sun.

In saying I didn't think a foreign manager would have respect I wasn't implying there aren't any out there or suggesting any English manager would automatically have it.  I just think it is harder for a cultural outsider to English football to 'bond' with the players.  IMO El Tel had the perfect blend of tracksuit manager when coaching, tactical awareness of the international game and rapport with the players - shall we get Tel back ?  :D  I can't honestly believe, despite what they say publicly, that the players respect Sven.  I suppose once he has gone it will all come out.

I'm a big fan of Allardyce, and believe he could the job.  To say his style of football would not suit England is overlooking the fact that the tactics he employs at Bolton are formed by the resources available to him.  I can't think of many better English manager (OK, I'm being stubborn on demanding an English manager now) that has a better tactical brain to assess an opponent and put a plan in place to counteract them.  Admittedly with Bolton that often does mean a negative plan, but is that always a bad thing ?  Are we looking to outplay Brazil at attacking creative football, or just get a result.

Interesting I see Kevin Keegan has been quoted at 100/1 to get the job, if he fot the job i'd shoot myself  to stop me going through the pain

Papers have their job and they would have nothing to report if we all behaved ourselves so in that respect it's tough.
BTW it was the NOTW that first started publishing piccys of child abusers (till they were stopped) something i am 150% behind.

Sven hasn't done a bad job. Yes we lost to France and Brazil. The Brazil game Seaman got lobbed from 40 yards to gift them a goal, but to be honest the whole team froze after Rivaldo scored his goal in the first half. Against France we were very unlucky, Heskey gives away a foul in the 90th minute just outside the area, Zidane steps up and plants it in the top corner 1-1. Then another goalkeeper mishap and James loses it and brings down Henry for a penalty, 1-2 game over. Hardly Eriksson fault.  Then we play Portugal, the hosts. We go out after penalties, again hardly Eriksson fault. It's the equivalent of having AK against a pocket pair 3 separate occasions and we have lost. After all these are cup competitions, where you need a bit of luck (look at Liverpool last season!) I'm sure that if Eriksson was English we wouldn't be talking about him being out of his depth.

Nem, i like you mate but FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you honestly think that an English manager would have achieved more than Eriksson? When Eriksson was appointed, we only had 5 English managers in the Premier league, 3 of them were previous England managers.

Do you really think the tactics were right against BRAZIL after the sending off ???
You are quite mad if you think that was not down to the manager

Our 1970 team was the best ever. It is just overshadowed by Brazil's amazing '70 team.

I used to like that Nemesis fella! European Champions sunny! One piece of luck - the final.

IMHO - King's delivery is too poor for the holding role. Carrick or Parker. In recent weeks I've started to go with Carrick. He's done well against top opposition this season. He's come on a lot.

As for Sven he wasn't bad at all.

Next manager?

Hiddink, Scolari and if he has to be English, Pearce/Bryan Robson.

I think a fair assessment of Sven would be that he's done a good job overall with more plusses than minuses. However that same assessment would also state that he's been disappointing in the most vital matches namely the quarter final losses in 2002 and 2004. 

Qualification has been achieved for three major tournaments including 2002 world cup where he initially took over a situation which looked like a lost cause. Whilst you'd expect a team & squad of the quality that England have had over this period to qualify it is never as easy as that and so still deserves some praise.

Worryingly in the very big games Sven has failed to demonstrate that there is any form of a Plan B if either Plan A isn't working or needs to be changed due to circumstances ( ie being 2-1 down against 10 men for instance).  These are the kind of games where a guy on his kind of salary should really earn it.   I don't believe a really top class coach would just have let the game just drift in the way it did against Brazil without trying something else tactically.  The change may not have worked but something should at least have been tried.

I also seem to remember cringeing when he brought on Phil Neville vs Portugal too   :blonde:

All the above relates purely to Sven's footballing credentials and I've ignored the various scandals with women and fake sheiks as I don't believe they affect the footballing side.  ( Of course they say plenty about him as a person though )

As a replacement I would love to see Martin O'Neill have the job ( personal circumstances permitting of course ).  Here is a man who has great experience both on the playing side and in management. One who is an expert in motivation and getting the best out of players whether directly or via his own team of coaches. 

An exceedingly clever man, yet one who would never insult people's intelligence when being asked for comments after a game. In fact probably the thing I miss the most since he left Leicester is no longer hearing his post match interviews on our games.  Always polite and honest with no small degree of wit thrown in for good measure.  A very eloquent speaker who would give detailed and refreshingly honest insight into whatever he was commenting on.....it was almost like listening to one of your mates give a radio interview on the game.  None of this " I didn't see the incident " Martin told it like it was.

The FA didn't give Brian Clough the job in the 1970's when they should have done, lets hope they don't pass over the chance to employ probably the nearest thing to Cloughie there's been since then.

Of course he may not want the job........................

Well done Dewi & Ironsides  :D

The only thing that Sven has done wrong that gets me is.......

1)ay a friendly bring a player in, he plays well, real game comes up goes with the old names. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Prime example
Rio skips his drug test so they don't find what ever it is he's so obviously taken. Then walks back into England set up next game.

Intresting Rio fact his fastest run last season was box to box to complain to the ref! and thats true (rooney was getting a telling off so Rio had to get involved)

It annoys me that people like this get an England shirt and seem to be an auto pick, don t get me wrong he can have a great game..... but how often does he these days?


2) Captain beckham? Can he lift and inspire a team? no Is he a good marketing tool for the FA? Yes.... He sells shirts

Captain Gerrard ? How many times we seen him turn a game around for pool, by getting out there and grabbing the game by the balls. Lead by example. Not get a new hair cut.

Sven is not up to it, when the F.A took him on he had no winning credentials before that, I am all for an English manager but there is no one out there. I would like to see Venables back in but if we go foriegn I would go for Scholari, we need someone who is interested in the job not for the F.A to go out and choose someone!

When we took Sven on - Sampdoria couldnt wait to get rid of him.

If we hadnt of come in, he would have got the sack within a few weeks

Lazio, not Sampdoria.

I have friends Italian from school who are Lazio fans and who revere Sven. He won them the Scudetto didn't he?

your quite right Baron Lazio won the scudetto under sven in the 1999- 2000 season

WHAT!!!??!!! >:? >:? >:?

I must admit I'd prefer someone of the Gerrard/Terry or even Rooney mould in 5 years.

Yeah, he spent over £150million in doing so.

If you compare market prices for players then to prices for players now then that's not that expensive.

Around that time Man U were looking at buying Veron for 28.1 Million, Real Madrid were spending £37m on Figo and £48.5 on Zidane, Inter paid £33 for Ronaldo and Juve spent £32.6m on Buffon! (A GOALKEEPER!!)

Guus Hidink would be a great choice, he also has the experience.
Martin O'Neill Ruled himself out huh? What joker ruled him in? He has Wycombe Wanderers, Leicester and Celt*c to show for his career. He also achieved less than Alex Mcleish in more time. And you still rant about him? Take off the green spectacles please! As far as an English Manager goes, I am not sure there are really too many options. The best would probably still be Terry Venables, if only he had been left alone to get on with the job in 96, the last eight years may have been different.
I am inclined to agreee that this is probably the best English team for some years. Same there are not managers to match!

Venables is extremely overrated IMO.

Thats because we're rubbish!!! I think the england job would be an ideal role for curbs - when he took over as manager at our club we had nothing, no ground no money and very few players so he had to make do with what he had to the best of his ability and managed to turn a homeless mediocre 2nd division team (back in the days before the premiership etc etc) into an established top flight team with our own decent stadium.

Similarly with the England job he can only work with what he is given - he cant transfer players in and out whenever he sees fit and therefore has to rely on tactics with the players he has at his disposal. Personally i feel he would be more than capable of filling the vacancy - but i hope he doesnt......

Don't think the current English managers are much cop, Mc Claren has waisted a lot of ££££ at boro, Curbishley does he have the tatical ability and Alladyce would you like to see England play the same way as Bolton cause I wouldn't.

I reckon they will go for Mc Claren just because of his involvement already

Im glad the FA are getting rid of Erikkson as i think he's tactically naive. How can one man continuely keep picking Owen Hargreaves and Phil Neville infront of Scott Parker to play central midfield for england is beyond me. Im not sure O'Neill would want the job, but he'd be my first choice. Although, the standard names mentioned i think would all do a good job. What about bringing back Venables or even Hoddle? Hoddle may have been a bit of a nutcase but he is very tactically astute.

As regards the team selection for this World Cup id love to see Parker playing the role Butt did so brilliantly in Korea. Then a midfield 3 of Beckham, Gerrard & Lampard. Beckham has been under some criticism but his set piece delivery alone nearly makes him an automatic pick. Can you possibly dare leave either Lamps or Gerrard out? As for the good old centre back debate, Id have to go for Big Sol. Sure, he'snot always brilliant in the league as say Terry, but has the big man ever had a bad game for England?? Terry is the best centre half in the Premiership but i cant remember him having a really good game for England although he'd be my choice alongside Big Sol. Hopefully, like Rio in Korea, he can really make a name for himself on the international stage. Rio needs a kick up the backside. Rest of the side picks itself, Cole and Gary at full backs. Owen and Rooney uptop. Robinson's the best we got between the sticks.

I think if we dont play well in the Group games however, Sven must change it quickly and not just hope it will work. I really think we have a chance in Germany of something special. I certainly hope so

i always thought sven was having an affair with owen hargreaves' mum, he has never impressed me in any appearance in an england shirt. 

berti vogts

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so far rod dewi ironside and nemesis have

Take off the Green specticles???

why oh why do you have to ignite the Old firm flame?

If you look back it was actually TightEnd that was extremely interested in Martin O'N getting the job (as far as im aware Tighty aint a celtic fan and hasn't anything to do with Celtic, in any way) There have also been so many other Non old firm fans expressing a want for this manager to take hold of England.

In my opinion he is one of the greats, but no one can take my opinion, as im a celtic fan and to be honest i probably am biased toward Martin due to what he did with us. However sidestepping my reason for, the fact that so many football clued people rate him so highly must mean something.

The old firm arguement has been and gone mate, it may have caused a little ruffle back then, but now its all cool, and since the blonde bash brought so many blondites together in such a special way, i doubt that it will ever bring another ruffle between the people that have built a special bond since the bash.

So why try to add flames to a fire that died long ago, by refering to Green specticles, i dont know.

I sincerely hope you take this the correct way, and that we can all have a great laugh as we did at the bash, and lets leave these Tangable comments out of a thread where they just dont belong.

Thanks

Scottish Dave

berti vogts

if nemesis can sign the petition surely you all can

I was in no way igniting any "old firm flame" It was simply my opinion that the view was biased. Granted others have also expressed an opinion on him (positive) just as I was expressing an opinion (negative). How can he be classed as "a great"? He has managed Wycombe Wanderers and Leicester City? Yes he did well for them but with the greatest of respect, so did Lawrie Sanchez, Brian Little & Mark McGhee respectively. The comparision with Alex McLesih was actually a dig "at" RFC and the current situation. He has been classed as a failure by the majority of Rangers fans. The board above him also. David Murray has mismanaged the club (and AMcL) in my opinion. I mean how can someone say that the guy has a "4-5 game contract" to prove himself, he wins none and keeps his job! All based on a (creditable) 1-1 draw with an already qualified Inter side. Lets be blunt, RFC won one game out of six in the Champions League. It is the first time since 1983 there have been "Murray Out" banners at Ibrox and there is a reason why! And yes, I do, very proudly, support Rangers. But, and surely you know this to be accurate, he has won more trophies than M.O'N in less time. That was the point I was making. Anyway, we digress, my opinion is that Martin O'Neil still has much to prove before being able to take the England job (maybe a job at a top English side may prove his worth and win more respect?). I also believe he is not equipped to deal with the invasion of privacy that the English press would undoubtably throw upon him and his family. Finally, until his wife is back to full health (not sure of the situation on this) , he would not give 100% to the job, and quite rightly so. That is not an Anti Celtic jibe. If Gus Hiddink was there, I would still love him as the English manager, it is a case of who each of us believe to be the right man for the job.
Regarding the blonde Bash, and the "old firm collective", I dont think there has actually ever been a problem, I think most of us have said this maybe 6 months ago, it is others that seem to bring it up, it doesnt bother me at all. I am very much of the school, "in the gorund, we sing our songs, we get the atmosphere going. When we step outside the Stadium (or "ploughed field with deck chairs" in your case  ;) ), we shake hands, drink beer together and be merry". I have said that on many many occassions on this forum and will continue to. I don't give two hoots who anybody supports, all judged on merit. So, with that said, all the best, hope to discuss soon!

Simon, thanks ever so much for the well spoken reply, and also the PM's you sent me, i appreciate the time you have taken to do this.

I understand exactly where you are coming from now, and im glad you see that with me also.

Thanks again mate

Dave