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Title: best or worst river card Post by: TL900 on November 30, 2013, 10:59:28 PM PokerStars Hand #107830124847: Tournament #821821386, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (1400/2800) - 2013/11/30 22:34:16 WET [2013/11/30 17:34:16 ET]
Table '821821386 29' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: WhoAreYoux1 (106417 in chips) Seat 2: darek12 (71084 in chips) Seat 3: NicNacZH (46935 in chips) Seat 4: Lioncard77 (20214 in chips) Seat 5: Plu2niumwife (18560 in chips) Seat 6: buytenwegh (30920 in chips) Seat 7: Mt.Spewmore (142487 in chips) Seat 8: MAKKAPAKK (75358 in chips) Seat 9: Jabracada (194755 in chips) WhoAreYoux1: posts the ante 350 darek12: posts the ante 350 NicNacZH: posts the ante 350 Lioncard77: posts the ante 350 Plu2niumwife: posts the ante 350 buytenwegh: posts the ante 350 Mt.Spewmore: posts the ante 350 MAKKAPAKK: posts the ante 350 Jabracada: posts the ante 350 buytenwegh: posts small blind 1400 Mt.Spewmore: posts big blind 2800 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Mt.Spewmore [X X] MAKKAPAKK: folds Jabracada: raises 2884 to 5684 WhoAreYoux1: folds darek12: folds NicNacZH: folds Lioncard77: folds Plu2niumwife: folds buytenwegh: folds Mt.Spewmore: calls 2884 *** FLOP *** [Qc Kc 4s] Mt.Spewmore: checks Jabracada: bets 6081 Mt.Spewmore: calls 6081 *** TURN *** [Qc Kc 4s] [8s] Mt.Spewmore: checks Jabracada: bets 11220 Mt.Spewmore: raises 18895 to 30115 Jabracada: calls 18895 *** RIVER *** [Qc Kc 4s 8s] [Ks] Mt.Spewmore: 50 left in the big109 villian is well known very good UK reg. We have a bluff on the river with no boat blockers. Pot is 85k we have 98k back, give up/54k/jam? Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: rfgqqabc on December 01, 2013, 12:10:52 AM Wouldn't you size turn a touch bigger if you had a made hand to set up a psb? Or raise flop? I think I like giving up tbh. History?
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: DMorgan on December 01, 2013, 03:55:26 AM Any significant history? I like giving up too at this point
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: Rexas on December 01, 2013, 03:59:18 AM What exactly are we repping ott?
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: The Squid on December 01, 2013, 04:26:20 AM Main problem is how strong his range is for betting twice and calling a craise. We running into an auto call here a lot.
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: The Squid on December 01, 2013, 04:27:43 AM 1/4 pot to get him to fold AJcc/Atcc?
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: Q8Holds on December 01, 2013, 08:38:59 AM I think its a bad spot to bluff
KK,QQ gets 3bet pre, 44 can be a fold sometimes 88 doesn't get to the turn. KQ Js Ts Ts Aspades Aspades Js are the only hands your repping and im not sure all these hands play this way all of the time so pretty sure hes calling a high % of the time. Although I think hes calling the turn very wide so that would be the only reason for me to bluff the river. Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: muckthenuts on December 01, 2013, 12:24:42 PM Thoughts on pre? Would fold i think.
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: TL900 on December 01, 2013, 12:57:31 PM Any significant history? I like giving up too at this point Wouldn't you size turn a touch bigger if you had a made hand to set up a psb? Or raise flop? I think I like giving up tbh. History? No history of note most of our play together has been early levels. I felt like his range was capped at Kx and the occasional backdoor flush whereas I can have all boats except 88 and lots of spade flushes I think its a bad spot to bluff KK,QQ gets 3bet pre, 44 can be a fold sometimes 88 doesn't get to the turn. KQ Js Ts Ts Aspades Aspades Js are the only hands your repping and im not sure all these hands play this way all of the time so pretty sure hes calling a high % of the time. Although I think hes calling the turn very wide so that would be the only reason for me to bluff the river. Wouldnt always 3b KK/QQ in this spot, would never fold 44 and would call all of K8s K4s Q8s combos. Main problem is how strong his range is for betting twice and calling a craise. We running into an auto call here a lot. Is it really that strong though? He never has 2pr+ when he calls ott right? Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: dakky on December 01, 2013, 01:55:59 PM I like betting small to try and fold out combodraws that missed. Do you have any blockers in your hand?
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: TL900 on December 01, 2013, 02:25:37 PM I have the Ac
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: muckthenuts on December 01, 2013, 05:24:45 PM Not 3betting KK seems insane? Peeling pre also seems not good to me. Oppenent is good and we hold a bad/dominated hand. Don't really see what we're hoping for tbh. Lots of potential for reverse implied and sticky spots like now.
Title: Re: best or worst river card Post by: lucky_scrote on December 01, 2013, 05:44:41 PM I probs 3bet all my really good hands vs jabra because he opens so wide and I do throw in a few 3bets with some garbage.
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