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What would you say the chance for somebody to come through the game and manage at a really high level these days?

History

Very big footballing upbringing, always captain of school teams, captain of Newcastle city team, played for county, Southampton Academy, Blyth Spartans conference team. Other amatuer and semi pro teams at a young age, played in Gibraltars premier division which is suprisingly competitive and now play at decent standard in Hungary.

Got 3 FA qualifications when I was 16-17 and did a 2 year Diploma in sport and exercise science.

Feel like i have a good grasp of the game, have a very exact way of how i believe football should be played starting from the defensive W and compact midfield with very intense pressure and have a lot of good training sessions that are specific for the needs of those teams. Have always took training or been very involved in the strategy if most teams ive played for and study training materials a lot every week.

im obviously not trying to manage Manchester United overnight, but would be perhaps willing to sacrifice playing to give managing a go.

One pro is that I play poker professionally meaning i can plan my job around football and always have time to prepare etc.

What would you say would be the absolute furthest i would be able to get in 5 years?

With no contacts zero chance.

With luck, a level 10 club?

my theory was that if you can get to say 2 league below the conference then you can impress in each league and either win promotion or try and impress and get a chance in a team in a higher league repeat etc

im obviously not saying to be a premiership manager but perhaps high competitive league.

I don't know, it depends what settings you have it on.  I put it on easy and I was at Man Utd with a £180mil transfer budget after 3 seasons.

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FFS.  Looking to buy Football Manager 2014 now.  Is that the best one?

Ha, v good.

Think you're on your way as you've already mastered speaking in the wrong tense

"Have always took training.."

Q1. Your team just got beat by a controversial penalty. In your post match interview, what do you say?

a) It's just variance
b) Wugwug? The ref was a mole awaya nd couldn't see anything
c) At the end of the day, the lads have worked their backsides off tonight and to have come here - which is always tough - and get a decision like that to lose the game...well, I'm as sick as a parrot for 'em. I really am.

The game is changing.  If you were really, really serious about this I would suggest that becoming very familiar with all of the new analytics that are flying about would be a good start.  The game is still dominated by ex players with the old boys network at the moment but there is some evidence that the new stats guys are having some impact and getting very good with a lot of the new technologies (prozone, opta etc) and stats might get you a foot in the door somewhere.  Even then you are a massive price to be fair but maybe a slightly shorter price.

I don't know how 'in-depth' your statistical analysis of Poker goes, but if you're prepared to transfer that same depth to Football, I honestly think it can only stand you in good stead. I still think Football is disproportionately filled with 'old buddies' or however you want to call it, whereas I think it's fair to say that experience coupled with a statistical analysis of what you're trying to achieve is a more sound method.

That being said, like anything, it's getting your foot in the door. I don't necessarily think it would work, but it can't hurt to talk to some of the poker playing ex-footballers, such as Tony Cascarino, Steve Watts et all, and see if they can offer some kind of suggestion or 'way in'. Once you get your shot, the rest is of course up to you. I wouldn't have thought it'd be unachievable to get in below the Skrill South/North divisions. E-mail a couple of the clubs and just ask, even? I am sure eventually one club will answer you - hopefully at an executive level, and at least offer you an honest appraisal of where you stand if they were looking?

The best bet imo, undoubtedly, would be to offer your services for free to x amount of clubs saying that you are prepared to help them out in training sessions in a sort of skivvy role. The payment for you being the experience you are gathering from just being in the training environment.

Fly off a letter to a 100 odd clubs and I would say at least one will come back keen on taking an eager, free, pair of hands to help set up the cones, then you have the platform to impress/network etc. 

Wonder wt odds bookies will give us for Pleno to become England manager

As Dave said it's very hard without either contacts or not having been a former player.

I guess the only avenue that is possible, and that needs a lot of luck, is to get all the coaching badges and somehow get a youth coaching role at a L2 team who still has a decent youth set up.  Then shine there and start working with first team.  Then manager gets the boot and get a caretaker role for a while and win 4 on the bounce like the guys at Scunthorpe have.  Can't think of any other way to get in.  And even that needs all the starts to allign.

Doubt you'd get far in 5 years as you'd have to prove yourself at the much lower levels in order to be recognised by clubs above where you were at.  Have a longer plan.

Having been involved with a Step 6 side for several years, there is virtually no chance of someone getting a manger job at that level without experience but especially contacts. It is about who you know.

At the level below the Conferences...Southern Premier, Northern Prem, Ryman Prem knowing the leagues is vital. You have to know the player pool and this comes with years of experience. These divisions are littered with ex-pros managing part-time and people that have managed in around these leagues for decades

Whilst at the Pro level of course the management game is changing towards analytics, there is very little of this at Step 6 and below. There are simply not the resources to put to it

I would say your best chance is to look at really local leagues in step 10 or 11, basically park football. Offer to run some training sessions for youth teams, get contacts, get a way in and be prepared for the long haul

If you have long standing contacts at Blyth for example that could put you in touch with local clubs, then that may be your way in

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I decided that I will speak to the manager of the team I play for and ask to run training sessions from a tactical point of view and build up my say in this team and perhaps next season try and go for a joint managerial role and see how it goes fr a season.

very very hard unless you have a contact at least somewere in the game

Now we know the real reason Fergie decided to retire when he did - he knew BITB was coming to knock him off his perch.

The team sheets will be fun.

With all the ms spellings no one will know who is playing and who is dropped.

Somehow reminds me of Mike Basset.

"Show me where it says Benson & Hedges on here..."

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