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Title: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: JGill_DTD on December 19, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
Villain is playing 32% VPIP, 12% PR, 3% 3bet. Guy seems pretty bad in general, and this is a $3 rebuy.

Feel he bets the flop with KJ, I rule JJ out since he flats pre, so put him on 55/33 and KQ- since I think he over values Kx hands here. Do we shrug and just sigh fold it out?

PokerStars Hand #108786113165: Tournament #832613133, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2013/12/19 21:21:15 WET [2013/12/19 16:21:15 ET]
Table '832613133 10' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Metasploit (9866 in chips)
Seat 2: IAMTHEBBQ (17860 in chips)
Seat 3: mwnnj (6588 in chips)
Seat 4: NortonDutra (9420 in chips)
Seat 5: Gil3000 (13740 in chips)
Seat 6: aduncio22 (4022 in chips)
Seat 7: botec_rs (6262 in chips)
Seat 8: TheLipoFund (6692 in chips)
Seat 9: RegimAG (15044 in chips)
Metasploit: posts the ante 25
IAMTHEBBQ: posts the ante 25
mwnnj: posts the ante 25
NortonDutra: posts the ante 25
Gil3000: posts the ante 25
aduncio22: posts the ante 25
botec_rs: posts the ante 25
TheLipoFund: posts the ante 25
RegimAG: posts the ante 25
NortonDutra: posts small blind 125
Gil3000: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gil3000 [Qd Kd]
aduncio22: folds
botec_rs: folds
TheLipoFund: folds
RegimAG: raises 250 to 500
Metasploit: folds
IAMTHEBBQ: folds
mwnnj: folds
NortonDutra: calls 375
Gil3000: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [5h Jh 3c]
NortonDutra: checks
Gil3000: checks
RegimAG: checks
*** TURN *** [5h Jh 3c] [Kc]
NortonDutra: bets 1000
Gil3000: calls 1000
RegimAG: folds
*** RIVER *** [5h Jh 3c Kc] [Ks]
NortonDutra: bets 7895 and is all-in
Gil3000: calls?


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 19, 2013, 10:18:54 PM
I think I call, with the modicum of hands like 88 he can show here, as well as the Kx hands we chop/beat. Horrible sizing though. He doesnt put us on a Kx hand too often. Having said that in these comps we always have a big edge and this is a decent argument for making a fold.


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: JGill_DTD on December 19, 2013, 10:46:13 PM
I think I call, with the modicum of hands like 88 he can show here, as well as the Kx hands we chop/beat. Horrible sizing though. He doesnt put us on a Kx hand too often. Having said that in these comps we always have a big edge and this is a decent argument for making a fold.

This is why I was leaning towards a fold, we are still like 40 bigs deep in a soft comp if we fold. Obv we are pretty under repped here.


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 02:17:19 AM
squeeeeeze pre for valoooooo?


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: JGill_DTD on December 20, 2013, 02:37:42 AM
squeeeeeze pre for valoooooo?

Potentially, but if we get 4'd then it's annoying we've wasted KQdd. Would probs squeeze KQos


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 20, 2013, 03:03:27 AM
squeeeeeze pre for valoooooo?

Call and load up more tables?


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 05:58:42 AM
squeeeeeze pre for valoooooo?

Potentially, but if we get 4'd then it's annoying we've wasted KQdd. Would probs squeeze KQos

I just doubt we get 4bet bluffed very often they will generally be adjusting passively and thus defending too wide meaning the natural correct adjustment for ourselves would be to 4bet wider for,value. Kqs not not dominates their calling range but also flops very well. Additionally if we do,ever want to barrel kq turns very well too and having suited means there's more times when we can rip in more equity ott.

I don't gt what you mean Adam?


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 20, 2013, 06:13:12 AM
More tables, better hourly, people punt it in in the 3r etc. Either preflop option is fine, I'd take some hud reads or depend on my mood. Wug otr?


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: muckthenuts on December 20, 2013, 07:51:21 AM
I would just call as its a $3 and the guy could just as easily be overvaluing K6 as he can be randomly clicking buttons or desperation bluffing his missed draw. Def don't think its a fistpump though, occasionally do expect to see huge hands where the guy is overbetting simply in the hope you've got a decent piece and won't fold this card, but i think we have too much of the board to fold in this instance.


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 08:11:12 PM
More tables, better hourly, people punt it in in the 3r etc. Either preflop option is fine, I'd take some hud reads or depend on my mood. Wug otr?

we can still play more tables and 3bet, that should be a problems.


yeah i dont fold these rivers.


Title: Re: Weird $3 re spot
Post by: lucky_scrote on December 20, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
GL making me fold there, 3r innit. Could probably break into discussion groups if it's a fish in the big 162 or 100r.