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Title: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: Rod on January 01, 2014, 03:40:16 PM
Opponent is a reg at the $25nl Zoom. I have 121 hands on him but have not done notes yet. I know I really should do them. Stats are VP$IP: 22% PFR: 20% 3-bet: 8%. I don't know if he has a perception of me if he does it is likely to be pretty aggressive but not over the top. I know he can 3-bet light from the blind.

Calling the 3-bet pre is OK here? Pretty sure the flop has to be a check/call or can I lead out? There can't be much value in a raise or can there? I dominate KJ and KT for example. When he checks the turn he seems to be scared of the King so I bet teh river hoping for a call from JJ or something like that which I beat. I then fold to the shove which seems standard.

Is my line OK or is there more profitable ways of playing this hand?

PokerStars Zoom Hand #109409860893:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/01/01 15:12:07 WET [2014/01/01 10:12:07 ET]
Table 'Hydra' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NYGift ($22.98 in chips)
Seat 2: 33teetwo33 ($82.22 in chips)
Seat 3: LostvsHouse ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 4: T1meI{eepeR ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: zoomast ($9.66 in chips)
Seat 6: NumbahOne ($29.97 in chips)
33teetwo33: posts small blind $0.10
LostvsHouse: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 33teetwo33 [Qs Ks]
T1meI{eepeR: folds
zoomast: folds
NumbahOne: folds
NYGift: folds
33teetwo33: raises $0.50 to $0.75
LostvsHouse: raises $1.50 to $2.25
33teetwo33: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Kd 5d 3s]
33teetwo33: checks
LostvsHouse: bets $2.50
33teetwo33: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [Kd 5d 3s] [8h]
33teetwo33: checks
LostvsHouse: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd 5d 3s 8h] [3c]
33teetwo33: bets $4
LostvsHouse: raises $16.60 to $20.60
33teetwo33: folds


Title: Re: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: Ironside on January 01, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
You played it like a busted flush draw I think his shove is because he thinks your draw is busted hands that beat you aa ak  kk 55 88 think you have to call


Title: Re: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: Rod on January 01, 2014, 04:15:06 PM
You played it like a busted flush draw I think his shove is because he thinks your draw is busted hands that beat you aa ak  kk 55 88 think you have to call
A flush draw would raise the flop though?


Title: Re: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: MelissaChloe on January 01, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
I think you played it fine.

Villain raising the river sucks for us and I think in close situations where you don't have a read on what villain does this with on the river, it's better to lean to a fold.

I think the way it was played looks far more like the hand you have rather than a flush draw...


Title: Re: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: muckthenuts on January 01, 2014, 05:27:12 PM
Yeah wouldn't fold a hand this strong preflop in this spot.

I think betting turn is good for value and for range as you can percieivably still have flush draws/worse pairs/floats etc.

River feels like you can go either way really. You can call as you've capped your range vs a reg who may be aware of this and there aren't many value combos in his range he'd play this way, or alternatively you can just not give credit for any of this at this level and fold to a strong line. Honestly though i would call and make a note, his line seems weird enough here for me to get curious.


Title: Re: Top pair out of position in 3-bet pot
Post by: The Squid on January 01, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
You play this hand well and pretty standard. River comes down to whether you want to make an exploitable fold here because people aren't capable of bluffing like this at these limits(?) or if you just want to play tough and think about your range. You have no two pairs i presume. So we have only 3 set combos that can call this jam (assuming you 4 bet AK) which makes it a very profitable jam on villains part.