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Title: is this a fold?
Post by: polerization on January 06, 2014, 03:23:58 PM
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/6770415_AC45D6FF3D
in game thought was he either has a big pair or at least AK/AQ.
is this still a call? trying not to be results based.


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: willrobrobu on January 06, 2014, 03:34:03 PM
not a call, a reshove imo


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: Honeybadger on January 06, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
Difficult to say this considering the hands that end up being tabled, but I think this is a tight but good fold. The BB's cold call (rather than jam) is very, very often going to be AA or KK.


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: lucky_scrote on January 06, 2014, 10:41:12 PM
Doubt I'm ever really folding


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: Derbylad on January 06, 2014, 10:50:08 PM
Difficult to say this considering the hands that end up being tabled, but I think this is a tight but good fold. The BB's cold call (rather than jam) is very, very often going to be AA or KK.

Agreed. Very stat dependant IMO. Our decisions effectively an all in pre from 15bb. If player 2 has an abnormally high VPIP compared to his Preflop raise we can potentially get it in and not be dominated vs his range however a lot of the time we're calling for a flip at best. On the reverse if player 7 has very similar VPIP and PFR factors and a negligible 3 bet we can assume he's only shoving with a small percentile of his top range even from an 8bb stack in late position; which is likely dominating our hand. In this scenario we're now at best hoping to win a side pot that will be less than our Original starting stack if we call.

The decsisions also affected by when the blinds are next going up based on Player 7's shoving range.
Try not to be too results dependent and just have faith in your decision making. Good fold readless.


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: Rexas on January 07, 2014, 04:59:10 AM
Difficult to say this considering the hands that end up being tabled, but I think this is a tight but good fold. The BB's cold call (rather than jam) is very, very often going to be AA or KK.

Agreed. Very stat dependant IMO. Our decisions effectively an all in pre from 15bb. If player 2 has an abnormally high VPIP compared to his Preflop raise we can potentially get it in and not be dominated vs his range however a lot of the time we're calling for a flip at best. On the reverse if player 7 has very similar VPIP and PFR factors and a negligible 3 bet we can assume he's only shoving with a small percentile of his top range even from an 8bb stack in late position; which is likely dominating our hand. In this scenario we're now at best hoping to win a side pot that will be less than our Original starting stack if we call.

The decsisions also affected by when the blinds are next going up based on Player 7's shoving range.
Try not to be too results dependent and just have faith in your decision making. Good fold readless.

Definitely what he said ^^^


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: theprawnidentity on January 07, 2014, 08:38:24 AM
Ewwwww.


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: MC on January 07, 2014, 09:10:53 AM
Sigh rejamming for sure in a $2.50


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: pleno1 on January 07, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Basically bottom of my range that I'm goi with readless.


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: polerization on January 07, 2014, 12:46:19 PM
Ewwwww.

elaborate?


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: Flash92 on January 07, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Sigh rejamming for sure in a $2.50

This. :)


Title: Re: is this a fold?
Post by: Derbylad on January 07, 2014, 11:51:33 PM
Sigh rejamming for sure in a $2.50

This. :)

Hate to be a bit of a Nazi on this one, but there are no end of posts of "definitely reshoving in a <$100 BI tournament" etc... floating around low stakes PHA and it's a bit naive to assume that there aren't capable and solid regs out there as well as punters in these fields. I'd argue are ROI's going to greatly suffer if we're not, as I've previously stated stat dependent on these situations.