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Afternoon.

We have made a tweak to the Forum Software, to modify the ability of Members to Edit their own Posts.

Previously, it was possible to Edit Posts for an indefinite period of time.   

As of now, there is a time limit of 30 minutes from when the original Post was made.

We are not wholly sure on this, but we think that is quite often the case on other Forums, too.

Any questions, fire away.

Thanks.   

IS Bongo back or did tighty roll his sleeves up?

Edited as a test :)

Ha, neither.

Think that Ironside or Kinboshi pressed the buttons. We have every confidence in their IT skills, obv.

So, my spelling mistakes will be there for all to see forever, now?

Edit: much better.

This 30 mins thing doesn't seem to be true currently, can't edit any posts I've just made :(

Edit - Oi Oi, maybe I can!

Edit - Sigh, but not in the thread I need to

Hi James,

As far as I am aware, you get 30 minutes "grace" to edit your Posts. Beyond that, no, it should not be possible.

If that is not the case, let us know please.

I can't edit any posts I've made in my Diary thread that I've made in the last 30 mins :(

OK, I'll ask the experts (Iron & 'Boshi, God help us) , & see what they say.

Apologies for any inconvenience.

V good

Think this is very useful, edits have been made to staking requests after people have been booked, full clarity on what was originally said is important in these transactions IMO

Will you introduce a "pished mode" that will allow posts made between 11pm and 4am to be edited for a 30 minute window 8 hours after posting?

lol my first thought and a good idea.

its  called the gouty

Ha, I think it's much more fun having to log in and see what you've done ;D

 ;ashamed;

In all seriousness I think it should be 12 hours or something unless there is a very good reason for such a short time span.

So in my "blonde will make you thin thread"

I would update the original post when people wanted to join in .....does this mean I won't be able to do that now ?

Almost - the correct title would be the Mondatoo clause.

Hii Lee,

I am afraid that is correct, an unfortunate by-product of the change.

I think it can be any time span we choose, for now it is 30 minutes, but if good reason for longer can be shown, I'm sure it could be modified.

Ok no worries (: 

Seems like a good idea but curious as to why the change? Normally change comes from feedback, necessity or incident

If you can change it to be longer, then change it to be as long as possible? I didn't see a problem with how it used to be, and it always annoyed me that on 2+2 you only get 15 mins or so to edit.

Seems like a bit of a blunt instrument to me. Especially for staking or other threads where payments are being taken wouldn't it just make these threads much more cluttered because rather than updating the OP there has to be a new post every time someone books or pays for action after the 30 minute window?

If the problem is that some people are maliciously editing posts to deceive buyers etc would it not be better to either a) show a larger warning than there was before when a post has been edited or b) flag mods when an edit has been made so that the mods can see at a glance if its something suspicious or if its a benign spelling correction or update?

I guess another way to get around the cluttered threads problem would be to allow the thread started to edit the OP as before but further posts in the thread cannot be edited?

It wasn't implemented with staking threads in mind.  That's more of a side-effect.

Most forums do have a time-period like this though (for a whole range of reasons), it's not unusual.

Editing the OP but not other posts in the thread isn't part of the functionality of the forum software, unfortunately.

I understand that it wasn't implemented with staking threads in mind. I don't really have a vested interest in those any more, haven't started a staking thread for an age. Curious to know some of the reasons for the time limit though, usually something pretty big has to happen to provoke what I think most would agree is a pretty big change to a tool that gets used very frequently. I think most would agree that the removal of editing privileges for members is a little more than a 'tweak'?

yeh maybe 64 hours would be best so you can quickly edit the 2nd post of a thread and keep t updated.

I can't seem to edit any of my posts at all, even just a few minutes after posting them.

Edited to say: Oh! I can edit THIS post lol... but can't edit any of my PHA posts after posting them. Weird...

Meh, unless there was specific reason to change this which you haven't said, then I would say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Old system seemed fine to me

there may be a glitch in my handy work will have a look under the bonnet tomorrow if i am fit enough
sorry for the inconvience

What about a function to see previous edits?

Do mods already have this privilege?

No. Nor can we tell if a post has been edited unless we stumble upon it ourselves.

Am with the Camel here, seems strange, dont see why the need to change it. For the record, i posted a couple of posts in the diary section and 2mins after, couldnt modify them.

Good morning.

Clearly, this change was not made without reason.

We had hoped it would solve a temporary problem that arose suddenly, & the matter could be sorted nice & quietly, without all the usual hoohah. This does not appear to be possible, so myself or one of the other Mods will try & explain the reasoning behind the change later this morning. I need to sort some other stuff first, but soon as that is done, & if the other Mods have not been on in the interim, I'll try & explain the matter.

It's quite a complex thing, so please bear with us, & be understanding. 

Thanks.

Several people have reported the same thing. It may be because the settings were not changed correctly, we'll get Iron or Kinboshi to have a look under the bonnet.

The old system seemed fine to us, too............but we found ourselves in a very difficult spot the day before yesterday.

I assumed the reason was all the shady aftertiming in tft..

Apologies to those affected by this change. It seems that in some cases, the tweak has not worked correctly, & we'll look at that today, & attempt to sort it.

We had no wish or desire to make the change, but a bit of a problem arose, & it needed addressing urgently, in our opinion.

We've had recent incidents where people have taken it on themselves to delete their posts, in some cases all their posts, and this has caused issues with threads not making sense. If an Opening Post is effectively deleted (or more correctly, all the Text is edited out, & repleced with a blank Post) it makes a bit of a nonsense of the whole thread.

Other Posts, mid-thread, if removed, also mean that the whole thread completely loses it's flow, & context.

So we had a bit of a problem, & needed to act quickly to try & resolve the issue.

It may have been a one-off, & perhaps we can scrap the idea in due course, we are not sure yet.   

We can certainly modify the time period to anything that seems right & sensible, too. All constructive feedback welcome.

It does cause other problems, too, as Dan Morgan pointed out.

Also, when we run Sweepstakes & Competitions, & have a need to repeatedly Update an OP to keep track of results & scores, that gets pretty awkward too.

We certainly did not make the changes without good reason, & we had good intent in doing so.

Hopefully, we can work together & sort things out to the satisfaction of all. 

sledgehammer... nut?

Really unless lawyers are involved this is a silly change.

Staking threads etc can be sorted by setting up a spreadsheet through Google and posting a link to it through the OP.

It is what it is now. I'm sure we will all managed to cope somehow.

Personally I think it should be as long as possible, 30 mins seems unnecessarily short.

is problem

Entirely deliberate, of course...ish.

Just proofread before you post!

Prefer warning, then banning people who are making these late edits than imposing a change on everyone when 99.9% of posters manage to act in a sensible manner.

I quite like that solution too Keith, but I'm bound to say that  banning members, even after repeated warnings, still causes headaches and spawns 'Bring back so and so' threads.

I think a workable solution would be to extend the edit time to a few hours, after that posts could still be edited by typing something like,

EDIT- There will now be 30 people on the the charabanc instead of the previously stated 29.

Some people need to get a bloody life instead of wasting their time causing trouble for others.

Without moderators, this place would die within 6 months.

They might make mistakes, but I have 100% confidence everything they do is done in good faith and with the best intentions.

I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong.

I was right all along.

can a member (not a mod etc) please check if they can make and edit a post on the diary board just now please

thanks very much

dont worry about it i failed under i go again

ok i am hoping problem with not being able to edit on certain boards is now fixed if anyone comes accross the problem again please let me know