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Title: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Vinodh on January 09, 2014, 08:53:10 AM
GPS day 1 online- 25k starting stack.
we are in level 10 with 3 minutes to go before the end of day 1.
We have a stack of 154k, we cover everyone at the table , bar one, who is the chip leader with 246k. We got moved to this table about 4 minutes before and have not played a hand yet.

Blinds 600/1200. we are UTG+1. UTG (chip lead) folds. We look at  Ahrt Ks and Raise to 3450.
UTG+2, from a stack of 19k, CALLS
HJ, from a stack of 32k, repops to 30k with 2k behind. It folds around to us.  We SHOVE.

Questions are:
Can we find a fold here ?
Can the Math gurus explain whether this is a +EV shove?




Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: david3103 on January 09, 2014, 09:21:19 AM
For clarity, the only other players who can be in this pot have 32k and 19k?

Without some live read that HJ only does this with KK/AA then it seems a no-brainer, we're probably flipping with one or both but the downside is limited and the upside is a 33% increase in our stack.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Vinodh on January 09, 2014, 09:23:27 AM
For clarity, the only other players who can be in this pot have 32k and 19k?

Yes David! only 3 of us in the pot !!!


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Killerkilsby on January 09, 2014, 09:40:51 AM
For clarity, the only other players who can be in this pot have 32k and 19k?

Yes David! only 3 of us in the pot !!!

50p?

This is so standard in my opinion.
Risking 20% of our stack with a premium hand if we lose still have 100bb.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: lucky_scrote on January 09, 2014, 10:37:53 AM
Easy call.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: verndog158 on January 09, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
yeah think im making the shpve/call.
lose the pot we have 120k going into day 2 which will likely be a good healthy stack anyway, if not we can get up to 200k and be high fiveing strangers on the train to the club saturday!
Also a slight chace the short stacks want to spin it up late in the day as they have another seat token or buying in anyway. Played fine imo


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: celtic on January 09, 2014, 10:57:49 AM
Raise less, call now.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Vinodh on January 09, 2014, 11:10:30 AM
Thanks for the reply guys. I am not sure whether still is this a 50p. May be I am too nitty after all!
Given that its so close to the end of day1, will people still can find a fold here?
As played, all three of us were All in pre.

Us-  Ahrt Ks
UTG+2 -  4c Jc
HJ -  2c 2h

Needless to say, we didnt improve as the FTR comes  Qc 6d Qs  7s 8h


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: celtic on January 09, 2014, 11:30:14 AM
I don't really understand the so close to the end of day one thing. It's just the end of a level. It makes as much sense as people who say they don't like to win the first pot, or don't like playing pots just before a break.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: George2Loose on January 09, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
Makes it more of a call being end of day IMO. The guy may not wanna travel to notts on Saturday with a bowl.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: BulldozerD on January 09, 2014, 11:43:27 AM
i'd need a ninja read not to shove here and I even if I had such a read i'd still probably shove.

looking at those hands it confirms there is still value in these comps


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: pleno1 on January 09, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
Makes it more of a call being end of day IMO. The guy may not wanna travel to notts on Saturday with a bowl.

this!


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Pinchop73 on January 09, 2014, 01:27:25 PM
It's just Ace high at the end of the day


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: lucky_scrote on January 09, 2014, 01:50:02 PM
It's just Ace high at the end of the day

Get out.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Flash92 on January 09, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
Can someone explain what they mean when people say 50p?


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: muckthenuts on January 09, 2014, 05:50:11 PM
Can someone explain what they mean when people say 50p?

50p is the cost for telling a bad beat story.


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Flash92 on January 09, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
ah, thnx ;)


Title: Re: GPS Online Day1- Is this a fist pump call / can we fold here?
Post by: Killerkilsby on January 09, 2014, 06:28:06 PM
You got any you want to tell?