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Title: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: Rexas on January 21, 2014, 12:22:25 AM
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/7024274_B799B11C13

Villain playing 97/8 over 100 odd hands

Guess river is just a fold?


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 21, 2014, 01:53:41 AM
rly? what do you beat?


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: Derbylad on January 21, 2014, 03:08:51 AM
Potentially checking the flop, or check raising to isolate player 4 if it goes bet limp limp.

If we do choose to bet i'm not always potting in this situation, we can pot build smaller while we're going to be shutting down a lot of turns and we also disguise the strength of our hand to also look like a blocker bet. We also gain a cheaper evaluative decision if it goes bet/raise.

Our hands pretty face up for anyone with the NFD once we've potted the flop and we're not always the only one with a set although this is highly likely.
As played...probably bet / folding the turn, unless we have a serious indication villain dry ace plays.


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: gouty on January 21, 2014, 05:43:34 AM
I don't play online much but I don't like the flop bet here as we have the worst of everything if we get any action. Sometimes PLO can be a lot easier if we recognise spots that are really bad for us. With this hand it's really hard to win a BIG pot unless you turn 2222. HU would be different but oop in a 4 way pot seems grim.

5c/10c online does seem to be similar to a £1/£1 live game in many respects too with all the limping going on. Then if you get aggro they all F off. It's the only level on stars I beat by the way. Hehe.


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: Rexas on January 21, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
Basically, I know that I should be folding this hand on the river, every now and then I'm prone to levelling myself into calling, which is obvs a leak and doesn't really happen too often. Really what I want here are general thoughts on the hand. Should I check call/check raise/check fold/lead flop? Ditto for turn? Felt like I did something wrong on one of those two streets before the river call, but I'm trying to work out where.


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: GreekStein on January 21, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
rly? what do you beat?

bluffs.


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: Rexas on January 21, 2014, 10:25:31 AM

And an overvalued smaller flush, which was my logic at the time (that and a bluff, obvs), which I think is a little spewey. This is 10plo, tho.


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: polerization on January 21, 2014, 03:01:17 PM
fold pre ;)


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 21, 2014, 04:05:13 PM

And an overvalued smaller flush, which was my logic at the time (that and a bluff, obvs), which I think is a little spewey. This is 10plo, tho.

Guys playing microstakes plo and playing 97/8, he isn't bluffing much at all!


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: Rexas on January 21, 2014, 05:55:26 PM

And an overvalued smaller flush, which was my logic at the time (that and a bluff, obvs), which I think is a little spewey. This is 10plo, tho.

Guys playing microstakes plo and playing 97/8, he isn't bluffing much at all!

Which was why I thought he could overvalue a smaller flush given that I'd checked to him twice :p Know that river is a fold tho


Title: Re: PLO - No, I couldn't fold pre.
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2014, 06:10:04 PM
I would c/r the fllop firstly, because J3 will call a c/r, but won't raise a flop lead, also we can get AI vs A5**hh like he had sometimes which is abso fine for us, also a FD might call a flop C/R and fold to a turn pot bet which would obviously be fantastic for us.

If we get AI vs a bigger set then meh we still have 10 outs.

Like Gouty says playing this down the streets can get awkward giving we only have 1 nut out, folding the flop is out of the question so just trying to get maximum money in here on the flop, and when it's not a massive calamity for our hand if it does check back.

As played, fold the river vs this type of player, like Adam says 97/8 guys by definition play hands passively, he prolly checks back the 3rd nut flush here, and even though has 97% of hands PF he did call the flop early on in a multi-way flop. I think we've prolly called the river here more because we had a set and a FD OTF than because it's a good spot to call. Turn is ofc very standard.