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Title: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Pokerron on January 25, 2006, 12:22:49 PM At what point (if any) does it become permissible for a player to reraise a under-raise?
Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: PointsUp on January 25, 2006, 12:40:04 PM I've always been told that if a player has gone all in and it's an under raise your only options are to call or pass. no one can re-raise. But I could have been miss-informed, :dontask:
Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Pokerron on January 25, 2006, 12:45:13 PM Thats what i thought/think is the answer, but someone told me if the under raise is 50% of the bet being raised then its ok to reraise it.....
Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Scottish Dave on January 25, 2006, 12:48:39 PM yes this is true, if the all in is an under raise, you can only call or fold!
this is true in CinCins where i play, and also in most online rooms, such as stars. However Crypto do not abide by this and allow you to go over the top of the 'All-in under raise' - this is however the only place i know that allows this. Scottish Dave Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Pokerron on January 25, 2006, 12:56:19 PM Thats great, thanks.
Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: johnlarsson on January 25, 2006, 01:04:12 PM tell me about it.
1st time i played live i tryed to raise an under raise and was told u canny do that. it took the guy about 20 mins to explain to me why u couldnt... becoz i had only ever played crypot i had never heard of it b4 Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: turny on January 25, 2006, 01:35:52 PM i have always been led to believe that you can reraise an underraise as long as you have not already acted in that round of betting.
for example if a guy bets 400 under the gun then a short stack goes all in for 550 then anyone acting after him is entitled to reraise including the blinds except the guy under the gun who can only call or fold when the action reaches him unless there has been a legitimate reraise then he may fold/call or reraise himself. hope this makes sense Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Wardonkey on January 25, 2006, 01:43:07 PM i have always been led to believe that you can reraise an underraise as long as you have not already acted in that round of betting. for example if a guy bets 400 under the gun then a short stack goes all in for 550 then anyone acting after him is entitled to reraise including the blinds except the guy under the gun who can only call or fold when the action reaches him unless there has been a legitimate reraise then he may fold/call or reraise himself. hope this makes sense This makes perfect sense, well explained. Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Rod Paradise on January 25, 2006, 01:44:05 PM tell me about it. 1st time i played live i tryed to raise an under raise and was told u canny do that. it took the guy about 20 mins to explain to me why u couldnt... becoz i had only ever played crypot i had never heard of it b4 Freudian slip? :D Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Teacake on January 25, 2006, 01:47:30 PM i have always been led to believe that you can reraise an underraise as long as you have not already acted in that round of betting. for example if a guy bets 400 under the gun then a short stack goes all in for 550 then anyone acting after him is entitled to reraise including the blinds except the guy under the gun who can only call or fold when the action reaches him unless there has been a legitimate reraise then he may fold/call or reraise himself. hope this makes sense Makes perfect sense, that was my understanding as well Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: Sheriff Fatman on January 25, 2006, 01:57:03 PM Thats what i thought/think is the answer, but someone told me if the under raise is 50% of the bet being raised then its ok to reraise it..... This is a valid rule but I think it only applies to limit poker. Sheriff Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: The Baron on January 25, 2006, 02:06:14 PM i have always been led to believe that you can reraise an underraise as long as you have not already acted in that round of betting. for example if a guy bets 400 under the gun then a short stack goes all in for 550 then anyone acting after him is entitled to reraise including the blinds except the guy under the gun who can only call or fold when the action reaches him unless there has been a legitimate reraise then he may fold/call or reraise himself. hope this makes sense That is what I thought as well. Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: johnlarsson on January 25, 2006, 04:30:33 PM yeh thats true...
but the 1st person who called 400 chips. and then the guy moved all in for 550. everyone else afte rhim can raise if he wants to. but the 1st guy who called b4 he raised can only call or fold(if no1 else has raised) Title: Re: Raising a under raise in live Tourneys Post by: AndrewT on January 25, 2006, 04:45:39 PM We've been through this a few times before, and the way to sort things out is this.
Treat the underraise as if it were a call. What players can and can't do follows simply from this. |