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I've bought in for 800$ villain has about the same, seems to have topped up a little due to notes but I can't really remember him playing any significant pots. Villain is American Chinese, possibly a grinder, seems relatively comfortable at the table and said hello to 1-2 guys. Dealers don't seem to know him though. In the Venetian and DSE is on atm, meaning he might just not be a regular here.

I've opened every button when its folded round to me, not shown many hands down at all apart from AK on q868q when i called a river bet with AK to a small turn/river bet having 3b pre and checked back flop. I've also shown down QQ on a687K vs a river bet and was good. Was pretty card dead for the first hour or so but had a rush of cards. He has defended 1/3 (this hand) from SB and 2/3 from bb vs a minraise. He has been pretty snug.

I open 47o Villain calls from the SB.

Flop Tc4s3d. He checks, we check back.
Turn 7s. He checks, we bet 15 he calls.
River 6s. He checks, we ?

Absolute nutlow river. We have cbet 3/5 times in this situation, however some were multiway, and I think checking back the flop this time is good for our image and allows him to stab, even if this only gives us one bet. WUG?

I usually prefer betting flops in this spot for protection/semi-balance, on this sort of texture with your image can likely expect a few Ace high peels. I'm sure cb is fine too though. Surely we should just showdown river now?

Pretty nasty river card and hard to know what we get called by if we bet here.

One of those small edges where the good players get maximum from hands like this and the rest of us just check it back in fear of being check-raised.

Oh man I was expecting some gigantic 5 figure pot and you show me this?!

I like overbetting turn.

As played think I bet/f like 1/3rd pot a lot of the time (as I would do with a lot of my air) and check behind occasionally. Whatever the outcome it will be great for our image and the metagame

chuck out a pony will get called by worse sometimes and if he folds then we don't have to show our hand which will be worth a few bb's of EV in the long run in the game id imagine.

yh im on board

then sit out and leave the venetian.



Sheldon = scum

why dont we want him to see? im sure it will be perfectly reasonable for an aggro european kid to be opening 74o.

ya it's a live game, were here to v bet better than them so showing them this trash has the added benefit of getting you money later on.

Playing terribly in small pots to gain the image to win the big pots is how I play poker.

Well, apart from the last bit

stand up go play  H/L ;)

Seems very hard for us to have air for the guys that mentioned that. I think betting river probably better had we bet the flop. I mean value betting now can't be bad as it is live, i just don't think vs a tighter/decent opponent makes it the best spot to do so.

think i'd like to get a cheeky overbet on the turn. was pot around 30/35? i like betting huge here its a nice chance incl we should be getting free showdown v nearly everytime he calls.
checking river and showing is probably good v's a player who thinks a little anyways, and for me two options really on river checking or going half pot ~36. i think betting is not thin as it looks on the surface.

this. dont ever give that casino a cent.

yeh they are v scummy casino.

lots of bad stories, and Shelon Adelson is trying to destory us all.

Bet the flop imo, there are much better spots to check back 2nd/3rd pair hands if we think that we're going to be exploited with a huge cbet %age. Here we're looking at any non 4/5/6/7 is gunna be problematic and I don't think with given info we can justify call/calling too many runouts. Without a specific reason to do anything else I think you should be cbetting here.

As played I bet 25


Interesting idea, reasoning?

With pickens hair you want to keep up the crazy image at all oppurtunitys

Bet as he probs leads his draws on the turn when you check back flop.

I saw Isildur1 do it once.  :kiss:

But mainly because I like to rep that I'm trying to push villain off the pot with his incredibly capped range, with my range that shouldn't really have improved (showdown equity) that much from a range that checks the flop behind. We get cape'd a lot more in my experience.

I find these situations very difficult to describe in words, they are incredibly psychological situations. You obviously do lose immediate value a decent amount of the time, but not as much as you'd think. If one can correctly manipulate ones body language and utilise correct eye contact, you lose immediate value even less.

Pretty disappointed this is your best hand history of the trip!

Glad you had a good time though ;)

Also I totally feel like I'm teaching granny to suck eggs here lol

But hopefully I can maybe provoke some thoughts for the lesser experienced.

God that sounds patronising. I'll get me coat :p

I've got a few interesting ones for the group but it isn't worth posting in a strategy forum. Just thought this was a cool spot. I vb and he snap folded :(

I don't mind checking the flop vs someone who has a bunch of high cards often, won't valuebet thinly and won't stab twice very often.

i think tbh the main reason we're thinking of over-betting the turn is because the pot is very small, not because it's a strategically good move.

Which btw, is absolutely fine.

yeah over betting is good here just value wise, i just thought we shouldnt ever have two pair and i think we get free showdown vs his get there range