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Title: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 13, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
Looking to auction off up to 20% of my UKPC Main Event Action. Bidding will start at 'Spot Rate' (£5% = £55 / £10 = £110..etc) and will finish on Sunday 16th Feb @ 9pm (REAL time not forum time). There are a few reasons for me auctioning this action rather than selling at my own price;
- After the thread a while back, I feel it best to let the community decide what / if they want to pay - therefore I can't be seen to be 'taking the piss' if I was to charge what people would see as an unreasonable markup.
- To get the best price possible (for me and you).
- Fun (having never ran one before).

The UKPC Main event field, although I know this will sound very cliché, should be pretty good 'value' in theory due to the immense number of satellite qualifiers, ran on arguably the 'softest' poker site on the net (I would go as far as to say probably the best £1k of the year in terms of the field). I feel that I should have a considerable edge on the field due to the fact I've played multiple £1k+ events both live and online and this gives me an edge as I will 100% not be playing 'scared' / won't be affected by any 'money jumps', like I expect so much of the field to be. I've also played over 6,000 MTTs online lifetime and therefore have encountered a lot of different spots / players...etc. My live tournament record since the turn of the year has been; played 3 / cashed 3 - with deep runs in each: 8th 25/25 Series Blackpool. 10th 25/25 Series Sheffield. 28th DTD 500 Deepstack. Hopefully we can continue the cashing trend!

(http://s22.postimg.org/ulqwq99g1/tomamblerplayergroupjan142014.png)

^ Above is my lifetime online MTT record. Notable results this past week include: 9th Sunday $109+R ($5k) / 1st $22[1R1A] ($6.5k).

Can take payment by: Stars / Bank X / Moneybookers / Cash at DTD.

(Am unsure which day 1 I will play as of yet, will let investors (if any) know ASAP and will use this thread for updates)!

Bid away! ;booder;


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 13, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
Oh and can bids be made using markup figure please.

E.g. 10% @ 1.0 instead of 10% @ £110


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: Junior Senior on February 13, 2014, 12:14:56 PM
5 @ 1.15


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: lucky_scrote on February 13, 2014, 01:02:59 PM
Would buy a load at 1.2 but hate auctions, gl.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: rfgqqabc on February 13, 2014, 01:08:09 PM
15% @ 1.1


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: theprawnidentity on February 13, 2014, 01:10:31 PM
Dont really like auctions either.

Ill put 5% @ 1.1000000000001 though.  FU Picken!!!!!


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: cambridgealex on February 13, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
20% 1.13


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: titaniumbean on February 13, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Would buy a load at 1.2 but hate auctions, gl.


This



and not this

Quote
To get the best price possible (for me and you).


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 13, 2014, 02:35:48 PM
Would buy a load at 1.2 but hate auctions, gl.


This



and not this

Quote
To get the best price possible (for me and you).

Maybe I don't understand them properly. I've not sold for a live event ever since the thread questioning markups (this being down to me not playing live as much) and felt that this may be a better way (people paying what they think is the right price). The only thing I've sold for since have been online MTTs at spot which run regularly / whose field I have a better 'grasp' of (and mainly for things such as ST / Sun500 where I shouldn't be selling much higher than spot anyway)!

The hate for auctions is pretty clear so will steer clear and sell normally in future! Gotta let this run now though! :)

As it stands:

Alex 15% @ 1.13
Junior 5% @ 1.15


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: titaniumbean on February 13, 2014, 03:07:34 PM
yeh hate is for auctions not you or the concept of paying mu on a 25% slice of this specific donky.



just quite clearly doesn't get the 'best' price for the buyer let alone a good one.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: toddswain on February 13, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
5 @ 1.25


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 13, 2014, 06:17:23 PM
20% 1.16


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 13, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
But yeah -1 on auctions


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: Junior Senior on February 13, 2014, 07:42:51 PM
5@1.18
Might be my final offer


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 13, 2014, 10:33:43 PM
20% 1.19


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 14, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
Message received titty ! No more auctions from now on (can see where your coming from thinking about it) :) but for now as it stands:

Pads 15% - 1.19
Todd 5% - 1.25



Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 15, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
Are you going to do a high roller thread too? Ill prob be traveling and would like a piece if so.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 15, 2014, 10:12:57 AM
Are you going to do a high roller thread too? Ill prob be traveling and would like a piece if so.

Will have a think over the weekend. If I do it'll be a last minute thing and I'll be selling at spot. Can res you a % now if you like and let u know at a later date?


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: tikay on February 15, 2014, 10:14:51 AM
Are you going to do a high roller thread too? Ill prob be traveling and would like a piece if so.

Will have a think over the weekend. If I do it'll be a last minute thing and I'll be selling at spot. Can res you a % now if you like and let u know at a later date?

Don't forget there are two Live Super Sats to the High Roller, one Monday, the other Tuesday.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 15, 2014, 10:18:03 AM
Are you going to do a high roller thread too? Ill prob be traveling and would like a piece if so.

Will have a think over the weekend. If I do it'll be a last minute thing and I'll be selling at spot. Can res you a % now if you like and let u know at a later date?

Don't forget there are two Live Super Sats to the High Roller, one Monday, the other Tuesday.

Unfortunately I can't make the Monday however am near certain to be taking a shot Tuesday!


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: tikay on February 15, 2014, 10:20:21 AM
Are you going to do a high roller thread too? Ill prob be traveling and would like a piece if so.

Will have a think over the weekend. If I do it'll be a last minute thing and I'll be selling at spot. Can res you a % now if you like and let u know at a later date?

Don't forget there are two Live Super Sats to the High Roller, one Monday, the other Tuesday.

Unfortunately I can't make the Monday however am near certain to be taking a shot Tuesday!

Best of luck, looks like being a cracking High Roller.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 15, 2014, 10:42:46 AM
Thanks Tikay! It really does. Although I was expecting an overlay at first however I'd be really surprised if it did now.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 16, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
Closes in 5 hours from now.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 16, 2014, 09:16:09 PM
gg?


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 16, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
u got it.

Pleno and Todd - bank x / stars / cash @ DTD are fine.

Todd u got it @ 1.19.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 17, 2014, 02:59:33 AM
You plying hr?


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 17, 2014, 03:50:47 AM
If I win ipoker major. If not unlikely.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 17, 2014, 03:57:58 AM
K gl.

Wil ship stars tmro


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 17, 2014, 04:43:05 AM
8th zzzzzzz..... will have to rely on winning a seat to HR in Tuesdays sat.

As for the $, that's cool, cheers man.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: pleno1 on February 17, 2014, 03:09:42 PM
how much do we owe you in dollars?


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 17, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
£65.45 or $109.32 for 5% (xe.com)

$327.96 for your 15% Patrick.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: toddswain on February 17, 2014, 05:56:43 PM
Sent, good luck


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 19, 2014, 03:59:10 AM
Playing Day 1a. Tomorrow!


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: toddswain on February 19, 2014, 07:46:46 AM
Cool good luck


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 19, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
9.5k 1st break.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 19, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
13k next break


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 19, 2014, 06:50:39 PM
Afraid we're no good. KK < J8 on 2x7x8x.. Running 9 10 ggs us :(

Sorry guys! Feel I played really poorly in the opening few levels and probably levelled myself once or twice. Will do a full (albeit fairly short) report when I get home.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 20, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Review:

Ok so the main actually started pretty well and we were up to 35k from a 30k starting stack in next to no time.

Loss #1

The first hand we lost a fair bit of our stack on was when CO opened (as he had previous 3 orbits) @ bb 100 to 300. We peel our BB with  Aspades Td.  Ks 6c 3s flop. Check to CO who bets 450 (as he had the previous orbits). We Raise to 1200 he peels. Turn  Kc we just check and give up, he checks behind... hmm... River  7s we bet 3500 (just over pot) he snap flicks it in with K 10 red.

Loss #2

The second hand we lose some chips is; UTG+1 opens to 400 @ bb 150. We call the HJ with  Qd Jd , BTN peels, BB completes.  Qs 9c 2s. UTG+1 bets 650. We Call. Rest fold. Turn  9d. UTG+1 checks, we bet 1600, he calls. River  3h. He checks we bet 2650 (a little thin maybe but live players like to snap put us on J10 / bricked spades and hero call from what I know), he calls and shows KK.

Loss #3

The third hand we lose chips is a strange one. UTG+1 (same as previous hand) opens to 400 @ bb 150. (I know this is the 2nd history in a row hes opened however hes not been opening too much as seems fairly tight)0. We peel  Kd Qd (which could be a 3bet vs some but not this guy), BTN (Matt Frankland I think) peels, BB completes.  Kc Tc 2s Flop. UTG+1 checks. We bet 900. BTN (MF) peels. Rest fold. Turn  4d . We bet 1850, BTN calls. River  Ac. We BET (I will give my thought process at end of the hand) 2250, BTN calls and shows  5c 6c.

River Bet Reasoning

So Matt F had peeled both my Flop and turn bets on  Kc Tc 2s 4d  Ac. After peeling an open pre. It's pretty fair to say that I have a pretty strong range when betting this flop and continuing turn 4 way.

I didn't think there was any combos of flushes which peels pre (other than  Qc 9c /  Qc Jc / Nut flush draws - which isn't possible due to the  Ac river) which get to a river - both of which raise some previous street at some point a fair % of the time. I also don't think he can have ANY 2 pair combos (other than K10 - which again raises flop / turn a really high %) - as hands e.g. A10 don't get to a river a high % when I bet / bet 4 way due to me having a super strong range. He has 0 QJ hands as these 100% fold turn - baring in mind I have 15k to start the hand not a 30k SS (if he's good - which from what I know of MF he is). So I feel hes pretty capped to: KQ (which we chop with) / KJ+ K9 (we beat) /  Qc Jc + Qc 9c (which a large % raise some previous street) and therefore this river bet was designed to get him to fold chops / Hero with worse kings rarely / act as a 'blocker'. The only downside is when he turns Kx  Qc into a bluff - that sucks. At the time I was like WTF call / call with a 6 high flush draw? But then I realise he turned a gutshot to the nuts which I didn't see at the time!


P.S. He would 3bet AK 100% based on how he was playing / the opened - although tight wasn't super nitty. Not 3betting would be a big mistake.

Other hands:

Raise / gave up with 99 / 88 / A10dd / AJhh when we flopped the nut worst boards.

We then chipped back up to 13k from 4k without showdown - lost 3k and finally the exit hand:

Exit hand:

We open  Ks  Kd UTG to 500 (playing just under 10k total). UTG +1 peels, 3 more peels (including SB and BB who make it up). 5 way to a flop of  2s 7c 8s. We decide to check (expecting someone to bet this board a lot - and us to have the best hand A LOT). UTG+1 obliges with a bet of 2k. Folds to us, we pile our remaining chips and he calls with  Jc 8d (yes UTG+1 peeled an UTG open with J8o and bet called). Board runs out  2s 7c 8s ....  9s ....  Th ... J8o gets there and we are GG'd.

Sorry to investors - It just didn't go right for us at all.


Title: Re: Tom Ambler UKPC Main Event Auction.
Post by: youthnkzR on February 20, 2014, 02:59:52 PM
Oh thanks for the investments btw! Sorry again!