blonde poker forum

Basically, I've not had a winning week this year. In fact, I don't believe I've ever posted a winning week in my life at anything online poker related. I have like 25k PLO hands saved on my computer, is anyone willing to go through them with me? I can't understand what it is that I'm doing that is so, so wrong compared to what everyone else seems able to do.

The rake is pretty mental at low limit zoom plo and there aren't really enough bad players.  So many 60/40s and 40/60s with 5% rake being clipped from the winner.

I've been told this before, but it's got to still be beatable, right? I mean, it's plo10, even with the high rake you should be able to win at like 2bbs per 100 with a decent understanding of the game?

To do that you have to beat the game by 15-20bbs before rake.  I really think you have to be pretty good to make a profit including vip stuff.

Hit me on Skype we'll chat

yup the rake really sucks for low stakes PLO.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/153/high-stakes-pl-omaha/no-money-plo-everyone-raked-1315665/

Furthermore my friend bought a ridiculous number of iPoker PLO100 hand histories. I can't remember the exact number but the amount of winners was tiny over any sort of sample size. I wasn't joking when I said its unbeatable. I'd imagine plo10 is about as close to impossible to win at as it gets. The rake must be an absurd bb/100

.25/50 and .50/1 PLO are 100% beatable, most people who can beat it just don't need to.

I'd back myself at odds on to win over 100,000 hands

If I had the money to make it worth your while to play 500k hands of 50plo I would take you on.

God I'd be so bored after 200k hands lol I'd prolly just spew my nuts off lol.

Have a think about different BR strategies with low stakes PLO maybe? I get bored online super easy so I just short stack these and move up levels min buying each time. It's a spin but that's what you want paying that rake.

One of the advantages of ss PLO is that better players will actually avoid playing pots with you due to lack of value. This is exactly what you want. You can even do a martingale sort of staking plan up and down the levels. It's not classy PLO but is profitable (sober). Hic.

Looking at the people that have played the most hands at any given stake is a really bad way to try and work out who has the best winrate

Looking at the people that have played the most hands at any given stake is a really bad way to try and work out attainable winrate

^^ Was supposed to be an edit

#sausagefingers

Need a good sample size though and that's a bunch of hands. I'm quite aware the best players will move up quickly and the guys playing the most tables will both a) have lower winrates and b) play the most hands.

Good advice Gouty. rather than cutting your teeth at .05/.10 PLO think about 40bb in .50/1 or something - or you could just 1 table .50/1 with a full stack and REALLY think about each hand properly. You'll run into a much better stnd of players in average, without being world beaters and you'll get a much better understanding for low.mid-stakes which will cut your learning process in half when you go to 1/2 and 2/4 and your progression up the stakes will be a hell of a lot quicker.

I'd suggest a bankroll of about $1,000 - $1,500 to do that and if you chose a site like ipoker with a good RB deal that would be good for you as well, also the stnd might be a little lower on ipoker (although I don't think that's a massive issue)

Treat it as a learning process and not a money-making endeavor to begin with, 1 table, 2 if you really need, and SUPER SUPER focus.

It's just so hard to really challenge yourself and hold focus when the buyin to the game is £7 and you frequently straddle to more than that in live poker games.

Another tip is 7 or 15 buck heads up PLO turbo or hyper turbos late at night 1 tabling, and like Lil D said, really concentrate on stack to pot ratio and pot control. Real good for morale!

Your opponents are split 50/50 regs/punters. Always select re match accept.... The punters always accept but I love it when I have a funky match with a good reg and win or lose they ALWAYS decline. If they start accepting then it's time to go to bed.

PLO is a fantastic strategy game.Its not really suited to recs online but is great for rb pros which makes the online game so difficult as it is pro infested. So you think about that, then work out how regs/pros think and be aware of your own stats. If you play heads up at low stakes you can learn to spot regs from piss artists after a dozen games.

Play ABC versus the recs and mess with the regs/pros by doing weird lines and keeping the pot tiny oop.

Just to emphasis how nitty $10plo zoom is - average pot less than 15bbs (rounding means it goes down to $1) vpip less than 30%.


I really don't think that it is beatable 

Right, after a few hectic days im back with a bit of spare time, so Dave I will probably be hitting you up on skype pretty soon. Thanks for the input guys, im not sure whether I'll be playing omaha until/if i get back up to at least 100plo/nl based on the information here.

Such an unbelievable print for pokerstars isn't it