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Title: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: pleno1 on March 16, 2014, 05:05:09 PM
do you raise?

Seat 1: dntrvrmplz (4723 in chips)
Seat 2: 1inamilli92 (13265 in chips)
Seat 3: j240585 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Bruni4 (2842 in chips)
Seat 5: katperm (2936 in chips)
Seat 6: pads1161 (12501 in chips)
Seat 7: pvas2 (4101 in chips)
Seat 8: Clutch Hero (17280 in chips)
Seat 9: pvigar (2089 in chips)
dntrvrmplz: posts the ante 40
1inamilli92: posts the ante 40
j240585: posts the ante 40
Bruni4: posts the ante 40
katperm: posts the ante 40
pads1161: posts the ante 40
pvas2: posts the ante 40
Clutch Hero: posts the ante 40
pvigar: posts the ante 40
Bruni4: posts small blind 150
katperm: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Qc Jc]
pads1161:


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: muckthenuts on March 16, 2014, 05:50:56 PM
(very out of touch with mtts) but i wouldn't. Never going postflop ofc and with the image that goes with our stacksize plus being utg we're getting jammed on pretty frequently and will have to call off vs a bunch of these stacks, so it kinda feels like long term a small but unnecessary spew of chips to open here.


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: PathFinder on March 16, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Vs short stacks shoves (<10bb) we are only in bad shape vs JJ+ and AJ+ which we have 2 blockers for plus because we are raising UTG they will likely fold KJ and KQ and a lot of Ax's and maybe some small pairs rather than shoving with zero fold equity. We could potentially fold vs the 4k stack. It's hard for the deeper stacks to 3 bet us or even flat a short stack due to the gap concept (think its called that). Don't think it's awful I mean if we lose vs a short stack we still have 30bigs


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: Junior Senior on March 18, 2014, 06:10:50 PM
Yes obv


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: Tal on March 18, 2014, 06:15:13 PM
Nine handed, UTG, with shorties in the blinds, I would throw this away most of the time.

#RentaNit


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: TL900 on March 18, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
def opening, dem 12.5% antes


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: titaniumbean on March 18, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
what's the comp, what stage?

I'd r/c the sub 4k stacks, and try and flop alot of green or many cards in a row if the big stack does a middle button.


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: Junior Senior on March 18, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
Yes obv

Sorry, should have elaborated.
We've been working hard all day, we have got a JQ parsley, a motherload of chips and i aint logged on to fold pretty hands like this one.


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: WotRTheChances on March 18, 2014, 07:37:05 PM
Pretty sure i open here. The guys that are short are short enough that its fine to call it off and do fine vs their ranges. If the <3k stacks and 4-4.5k stacks were more in the 3-3.5k range then i'd fold. I still think it's fairly close though. I'd fold 9Ts. KQs obv a fistpump open.


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: lucky_scrote on March 19, 2014, 12:54:03 AM
Open and call 3k stacks. Won't open if I've been running hot and opening a lot of pots in the last orbit or so.

Won't be calling the 4k stack though, I'm sure if you run the numbers it's close on chip EV, but no point taking close to =EV spots when you have a mountain of chips.


Title: Re: appreciating stack sizes
Post by: wazz on March 19, 2014, 10:03:27 AM
Yes obv

Sorry, should have elaborated.
We've been working hard all day, we have got a JQ parsley, a motherload of chips and i aint logged on to fold pretty hands like this one.

JQ :parsley: is an open 100% of the time with these stacks imo