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If you win a tournament or decent cash hand, I am curious to how much you tip? If I win a couple of grand, might tip upto £50 and a couple of quid if I win a decent cash hand.

But if you are to win £100k or something, how much do you tip? Heard that some places expect tips of over £1k, whilst I would not even contemplate leaving that much as a tip!

Think generally after you cash a comp, 2-3% tip is fairly standard. Asked the TD at DTD after i cashed a comp and he said this is about right, and generally most people tip less than that.
Cash just varies i guess, depending on the size of the pot and how lucky you got in winning it!

If you ever end up in the position to negotiate a final table deal, I think it's a good idea to include a bit for the dealers. Saves a lot of hassle later on.

I used to deal so generally always tip. I tip more when playing cash than I should. People in this country are noticeably tight at casinos for tipping (less so in card rooms I find).

One thing I like doing is if I am 3 handed and discussing a deal or whatever, building the tipping in can lead not only to a better deal for yourself, but also gets the dealers something.

One time I will never tip is if there is a "dealer bonus" or some other extra rake where they should be getting a decent wedge built in. If the casino or whatever is not passing this on to the dealers then they need to sort it out (with feedback from the punters).

If I won 100k i would leave £500 maybe max

hah what he said :)

i believe 1-3% is stnd, on big scores (6figs+) I think 3% would be incredibly generous, 1% is the stnd, £100k score, £1k tip seems about right to me.

probsif you felt like the service provided was particulally good you'd be be a bit more generous and ofc the reverse.

Hopefully I'm lucky enough that I'll have to worry about it one day :D

It does kind of seem bonkers if you win $10m that you would be leaving $100k behind for the dealers.

As Marky says, lovely problem to have.

Didn't phill Ivey win an event and leave all the first place money as a tip ?

If like Harrah's/wsop they take some from the pot for staff then stuff 'em.

big +1 to this.  It really winds me up this taking 3% from the prize pool after raking 10/12% from the pot to cover staff costs anyway.  I rarely play an event which takes anything out of the prize pool on % basis for this reason.  If more people did the same they wouldn't do it.

Just as a side issue to compare views if you won £10k on a big acca at a betting shop how much would u leave as a tip? 

If someone from Ladbrokes were sitting with me between 3 and 4:50, telling me every time something happened that affected my bets and they were with me right up to the moment that the bet came in, I'd likely give them a tip.

You mean doing their job?

surely a poker dealer is only doing his job as well then?  That was my point in asking why there is such a culture in poker to tip after winning an event yet if you win in the bookies or in a corner shop on a lottery ticket i am pretty sure you wouldn't tip 2-3% of your winnings.

That turned out not to be true.

I used to work in a corner shop and it had been known for people to tip lottery winnings.

what was the biggest tip you saw out of interest?

Biggest tip i saw was an elderly lady who gave me £5 when she won like £50 i think it made my day when i was 15. It probably helped that i also delivered her papers and she tipped well then also. I believe when someone won like 16k which was the biggest winner in the shops history they left a few hundred for the staff but that was before my time. That person was also a friend of the shop owner so i suppose it would depend on who it was.

Tipping is a funny one in that i always remember it really made my day when i used to get a tip when i worked in a  service industry but often i had gone the extra mile for them to earn that tip and gone above and beyond my job. I used to get paid to deliver food so why should i get a tip when the food arrived? I was never that bothered if people didnt tip but maybe if someone had asked for some special requests or speedy delivery or whatever and id provided that then a tip was nice. The best ones for me were driving customers home when they were pissed. Always used to tip well then!

Call me a tight git but £100k and i would probably leave £500 maximum...and i can honestly say if a 'suggested tip' was mentioned to me i wouldn't leave a penny...bloody hate that...I'd make a point of taking the family up the pub with it instead...several times if need be.

If however i already had plenty of cash in the bank it would be different.

As has been said, at the WSOP they take the tips out of the prize pool, so if you win $8m in the main event, you've already tipped a quarter of a million before you visit the cage.

ept too rihgt?

It's only a $144k tip for the main event, anyone who doesn't cough up the rest to make it a round 250 is obviously a tightarse.

There was a lad who won £100k+ and was told as a suggested tip its usually 1-5%

Think I agree with your point entirely, £500 would be my absolute maximum

It's a business so as long as they can keep getting away with it and it doesn't affect numbers they will do it.  They would be stupid not to.  The trouble is the amount of 'deductions' from live mtts is getting bigger and bigger.  £1000 +£100 is standard now.  Some companies then take 3% from the pool on top of that.  Multiple re entries are allowed which are fully raked.  Then expect a tip when you cash out (any cash even a min cash which sometimes still leaves you losing if you had more than one bullet) and aggressively suggest this at the cash desk.  Compare this to 2007 when the GUKPT was the flagship uk poker event at £1000+50 or £60 i can't remember with no 3% taken from the pool.

The amount of cash leaving the poker economy is massive at the higher end compared to the old days.  If you add in the cost of hotels/travelling which are getting higher because events are now 3 or 4 days long with huge deepstacks far more common (virtually every week now at £300 or higher) its quite amazing where all the money lost to the 'system' keeps getting replaced by in the live scene.

For me the % definitely depends upon the amount cashed for. If i won a small midweek comp for £2k, i'd happily tip £60 (3%). However if I shipped a bigger one for like £150k I certainly wouldn't be tipping 3% (£4.5k), I would probably tip 1k (0.67%). I'd probably always tip at least 0.5%, so on 1M that would be 5k, seems fine. Sure will ever have this problem though.

Agree with the person who said they would tip less/not at all if constantly reminded and pestered about it, that is something that really annoys me. Particularly if someone is backed and in a load of MU, doesn't get a penny of it and it's not their money to give away.

I must be a total nit i could never imagine tipping someone who is just doing their job £1k no matter how much i won.

sometimes it can also be swayed by a ''round number effect'' - for example when I was fortunate to win 8250 I gave 250 - when I won 6190 I gave them 190....if you swap with pals do you give them their share of winnings before or after tip..;-)

I've left a £1k tip before, but that was for DTD which is my local who've done a lot for me - knowing and liking the staff definitely ups the %.

I've also left nothing when prompted for tips, eg EPTs, i hate that in any situation, also I hate the way they choose a pretty blonde girl to do that job, she smiles sweetly then looks so upset if you say no. Stars take it out the prizepool (Deauville is an exception I know) so cry me a river love.

I think Tom's numbers seemed right, £20 for a £2k win seems a bit cheap, so more like 2-3% there, but for huge cashes more than 1% seems ott.

"Cry me a river, love"

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You are.  Fwiw I used to tip in betting shops if I had a decent score (over a grand) because I remembered how much I appreciated it when I used to work in shops.  Nowadays I only tip if they are helpful and I get my full bet.  I make a habit of tipping if they go out of their way to try and get me on even if it is less ie. saying Im a regular when I'm not or not describing me as a stranger.  If they are the other way they don't get a tip even if I win thousands.

Tipping is such an awkward thing, I'm sure it's one of things that shouldn't be in the British culture and has been inherited from our American friends.

In the Netherlands tipping is a lot less common than it is in England. You tip in a restaurant if you've had a really good dinner. If the standard was as expected you'd leave €100 on a €95 bill and if it were exceptional I imagine maybe another €5. Still, if the bill happened to come to €99 I'd imagine it'd be unlikely many people would leave over €100. 100 is a pretty round number.

The problem with all of this is just the awkwardness, I am felt like I have to leave a tip because it's rude not to, but at the same time it's not justified.

I think in the unlikely event I ever ship another live tourney I'll just go around and give each dealer 2 quid each for their services like I would tip a waiter, seems fair lol. Lets hope I win £10k and not £200  ;cheerleader;

Im with poshboy, i feel much more inclined to tip more at DTD, as its my home casino and get along with all the dealers and TDs very well. Generally would tip a little more in cash games there, than in other places and in the comps too. THink its natural though to not want to tip when asked or pestered for it.

Pretty sure that when I last played a ukipt event there was 10% reg fee, 3% then taken from the prize pool and then when I cashed and was filling out the form with the pokerstars person there was a space on the form asking how much I wanted to tip. I felt obliged to tip cuz she was sat there with me and just asked outright how much I wanted to tip!! I thought this was terrible.

If 3% has already been taken, I wouldn't tip. Same as when a service charge has been included on a restaurant bill. Effectively tipping twice. Also are you tipping the dealers, or all the staff?

Wow thats on the low side ;/

Well I was thinking 1k but that is a decent chunk of real money to be giving away ;/

So is more than that, but hey you'll never know until you get there...

I can honestly say that if I won 100k I'd still feel panes giving 500 away.

One if the main things nobody spoke about much is staking. What if you have x% of yourself are you still supposed to tip the same amount? It's a little bit f a tricky situation.

At sky for example I bricked the high roller then cashed in the main to be down a little bit in the comps. I didn't give anything as I was still a net loser.

I'm also hugely against tipping when they take 3% out, fwiw irl I would say I'm definitely an over-tipper for good service.

Apologies in advance for thin brags

When 4 of us chopped GUKPT London last year we agreed that the change (£630) should go to the dealers, and we all got £50k each.  As I got the biggest share of the rest I think I bunged in an extra £500, as £630 between 4 didn't seem much.  My memory is bad, but think the winner put more in too.  I have tipped bigger percentages on my smaller wins in the past.  I'd definitely feel less inclined to tip so much if I had won a UKIPT with the 3% deduction, and really don't like feeling pressured into doing anything. 

I think £1k is plenty if you have won £100k.  Maybe it is people's backgrounds, but I personally would find it pretty hard to just give away more than £1k.   It is easier to say you'd give away more than 1k when you don't have the opportunity to do so.  Having said all that, I am fairly sure I'd have tipped more if I had another major bink in the next month or two after that one.

On the staking thing, I'd probably be happy to just lose 1% or so, but wouldn't be happy if someone had unilaterally decided to just give away 5% of my money.   

Pretty much agree with the consensus, when I've left tips before the backer has been happy to take his cut minus that and if not I've just made up whatever it would be. Personally I'd struggle to give more than £1k away from a 100k score, I'd rather give it to my friends/family then the dealers.

I always tip about 2% when i win sometimes more and quite often do suffer the the round number effect. Deffo not tipping if % already withheld. I agree its best to agree the tip as part of the chop when doing business. 2-3 handed.

tbh i think £1k on a £200k score is abso fine even though its tech only .5%

So you win the wsop main for $10m.  What do u tip if a) u got 100% of your own action b) you only got 25% of your own action?

Cannot see me tipping $100k probs $10k. Nice problem to have though!

anyone know how they split WSOP tips like obviously FT is in november to they back date and pay all the dealers accordingly?

If there was say 10 dealers on rotation for the FT id like to offer to take them all out for a nice meal as well as some $$$

I think what is clear from this fred is that no-one likes being pressured into leaving a tip, and if we are then we are more likely not to tip than to tip.

Tourney staff take note; it is clearly counter-productive to badger for tips!

Yes but most of the guys on here understand that tipping happens in poker but if your a rec you may need "pressuring" to realise the eticate!

It might be the custom but giving people money is never part of etiquette (i.e. it's nothing to do with 'manners').

If a rec player normally tips in restaurants etc they'll probably tip, if they don't they still shouldn't be pressured into it so I think the original point still stands.

Recreational players tip far better than pros and regs, who are more concerned with their bottom line imo.

I am a recreational player and I am a shit tipper !

After monte final (thin) last year i asked what's the norm to tip and was told  2%
I think I replied laughing so they didn't take offence like that's gonna happen !

And gave them £200

Tbh I normally tip the odd amount last week (thinner) I cashed for £2250 and tipped the £50

On another note I would preffer to tip people I like and not put it into a pool.

I'm just not comfortable with the notion of being obliged to tip people for doing a job that they are already being paid to do.

I do tip small amounts to individuals, but I don't give away chunks to large random groups.

My Mrs and I were brought up in poor families where every penny counted. There was no such thing as 'spare cash'.

When we were raising our own family, money was tight. We always managed to put a little aside to buy them Christmas presents or take them to the sea side, but we never got to the stage where we could spend money without thinking about it first. We still don't. It's a hard habit to break.

My girls are grown now, two are single and two have families of their own. They all work hard for modest returns, but they're doing OK, and I'm very proud to see them making their own way in life.

The truth is though, If I'm giving cash away, I'm afraid I'm going to give it to them.

+1 but you are sometimes made to feel a nit in poker being like this when you have already paid rake for their service

As a % i would say the waitresses get the best tips. The amount of times food or drinks come to say something like £7.80 and you hand over a tenner and snap say keep the change.... Thats like 25%+ tippage right there. Not that i begrudge it for the fit ones :-)

Conversely, I almost always tip older, working mum / really need the money type ladies, especially those who smile even though they look exhausted.

I only play in DTD so not really sure what you mean :-)

Pardon the thin brag but i won the 888 £150 superstack at the Mint in London tonight for £4700 after a 3 way chop.  At the start of the event you get offered 5k extra chips for £5.  I asked where the £5 goes and the card room manager says it goes directly to the card room staff.  130 people played the event and i imagine virtually all paid the extra £5 for 5k chips as the starting stack was 25k for £150+£15.  So the card room staff should already have a tip pot of £650 in a £150 comp with a £20k prize pool (nearly 3% of the prize pool).  The other guys who are both locals and regs left a 3 figure tip each.  I have never been to the casino before and didn't get any service other than what was expected.

I didn't leave any tip.  Is that fine?

yes.  dont chop though, go for the glory and punish.

Yeah that's fine. Not like the dealers would ever thank you for bothering anyway

Does anyone else find those players that tip £5 every pot (like it is a brag) and then belittle others for not tipping/tipping relatively light annoying? I don't have any issues if they want to tip largely but leave the rest of us alone! You are probably caked...

I tip a lot more whilst in Vegas because the rake is better, the drinks are free and you can usually get some nice comps! I probably leave between £6-10 per day split between the waitresses and dealers when playing in London.