Title: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: TightEnd on March 24, 2014, 10:02:01 AM Rob Yong
"So if we planned in a PLO, £250 buy in 2 day event, 50K chips (25 + 25 double chance perhaps) with a £50,000 GTE, would we have any chance of making this GTE or would it be like lighting up £50,000 and burning it? Will do it if I can get some support, same format as this 6 max and next weekends 8 max (obv no antes at PLO). To replace one of our 'normal NL weekends' we would have to get similar numbers to make it worthwhile. Historically PLO comps in UK are 50 runner events with no GTE" Opinions please, would you play it (assume satellite avenues into it)? Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: tikay on March 24, 2014, 10:21:29 AM I would play it, yes. Chance of making the Guarantee? Tough, but you've climbed higher mountains. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Longines on March 24, 2014, 10:24:43 AM It's probably over two years since I was last at DTD, I would definitely play this.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: KarmaDope on March 24, 2014, 10:50:51 AM Possible. It's not for me (buyin or game) but I think it would be tough. Would need to be on a weekend with no big comps as a lot of the target audience would be at these. Would also need to not be a big weekend online, and with FTOPS & WCOOP coming up...
I assume this would be a re-entry as well? ETA: I think there's a big enough demand for it and it is worth a try, good luck to Rob and the team! Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Eso Kral on March 24, 2014, 10:51:10 AM I think lots of people would play and rather than have DTD run the risk of a poss overlay and then not do it as an event again think they should offer a £35k Gtee in month 1 and then if it has a good attendance can always up it next month?
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: tikay on March 24, 2014, 10:53:56 AM Ooh, Eso juggling 4 cards. Yum yum yum. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Woodsey on March 24, 2014, 10:55:18 AM If I could satty into in I might consider it for a laugh, but 100% would not buy in. Why the need for such a big guarantee?
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Karabiner on March 24, 2014, 10:59:52 AM I'd deffo play it if it were a double-chance, not keen on re-entry though.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: smurf on March 24, 2014, 11:36:11 AM Dependant on when it was I'd play an Omaha tourney but not this one with the high buy in.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Gamblor21 on March 24, 2014, 11:40:05 AM I'd donate if I was free. Might struggle to hit guarantee, though with re-entries it would have a chance. Online day 1 option might make hitting it easier?
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Eso Kral on March 24, 2014, 11:46:16 AM Ooh, Eso juggling 4 cards. Yum yum yum. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Doobs on March 24, 2014, 11:48:48 AM I will definitely try and play it if I can, I am owed time off. Re-entry is good for me.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: tikay on March 24, 2014, 11:50:11 AM Ooh, Eso juggling 4 cards. Yum yum yum. Ahh yes, sorry. 2nd of 16, 4 years ago, very good. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: TommyD on March 24, 2014, 12:17:57 PM I think it should be Double Chance and would play this if I was available/organised enough on the weekend.
It would be great to get PLO tournies like this running but might be tough to keep hitting the guarantee on a regular basis as laid out in the OP. However you don't know until you try and the interest in PLO might just be enough now to get this going. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Junior Senior on March 24, 2014, 12:53:27 PM Double chance format yes and reduce gtee to 30k perhaps if worried. Could try a 1 day turbo first with a smaller gtee. More chance of getting recs like me in it if it were a 1 day turbo
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Pinchop73 on March 24, 2014, 01:26:43 PM Will donate
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Pinchop73 on March 24, 2014, 02:22:08 PM Should also say I rarely play live but this would make me get in the car
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: BorntoBubble on March 24, 2014, 03:10:03 PM Would flick in for some sat's
Would be nice to see some PLO sats on DTD as many sites do not run sat's to the PLO events as they are often side events. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: redsimon on March 24, 2014, 04:12:38 PM Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: bigjay on March 24, 2014, 04:14:30 PM Would love the chance to play but would need the std feeders online cause I'm to cheap to buy in direct
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: THISnTHAT on March 24, 2014, 05:51:12 PM Would love to play
Buy in a bit too rich for my bankroll BUT if sats would love to try and get in !! Think as said guarantee maybe a bit less as a trial then see how it goes !! good luck with it !! ;applause; ;applause; Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Rod on March 24, 2014, 06:51:02 PM Pretty sure if it was held at the right time, and I mean when there would be no major clashes it would do quite well. Players have been wanting a decent PLO tournament for a while
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Kmac84 on March 24, 2014, 07:37:04 PM Would give me an excuse to visit DTD.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: david3103 on March 24, 2014, 07:51:45 PM Why not try some week night PLO for Beginners at an affordable buy in for the more adventurous regulars?
I'd love that if I lived close enough and I can't be alone in that. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Karabiner on March 24, 2014, 10:36:00 PM Why not try some week night PLO for Beginners at an affordable buy in for the more adventurous regulars? I'd love that if I lived close enough and I can't be alone in that. They tried that a few times and some ran for a while, but eventually there just weren't enough players to make them viable. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: david3103 on March 24, 2014, 10:57:30 PM Why not try some week night PLO for Beginners at an affordable buy in for the more adventurous regulars? I'd love that if I lived close enough and I can't be alone in that. They tried that a few times and some ran for a while, but eventually there just weren't enough players to make them viable. OK, fair enough, although the current crop of regs may not be the same people. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: bobAlike on March 24, 2014, 11:39:08 PM As long as no clashes with family weekend then I'm in.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: leethefish on March 26, 2014, 02:44:20 PM Would only play if satalited in wouldn't buy in direct
I think 25k gte would be more achievable Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Cf on March 27, 2014, 12:04:52 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE.
I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: GreekStein on March 27, 2014, 12:18:44 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Cf on March 27, 2014, 12:41:57 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: JaffaCake on March 27, 2014, 01:47:09 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Doobs on March 27, 2014, 02:17:01 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? You can play day 1 online, so don't think there is a big issue with the buy in, and it is only one night's hotel if you stay over. A £100 tournament is locals only and there are unlikely to be 200 of them to play a plo comp Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: tikay on March 27, 2014, 06:26:35 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? In short, yes. At the UKPC the Buy-In to the PLO was £500 (£250 proposed here), with a £25,000 Guarantee. It got 79 runners, for a £39,500 Prize Pool. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: mulhuzz on March 27, 2014, 09:07:12 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? In short, yes. At the UKPC the Buy-In to the PLO was £500 (£250 proposed here), with a £25,000 Guarantee. It got 79 runners, for a £39,500 Prize Pool. You think it works outside of the festival though? I imagine the ukpc main was a far bigger draw. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: tikay on March 27, 2014, 09:15:30 AM Would a £100 buyin perhaps be more appealing with say a £20,000 GTE. I'm not sure if there'd be enough people comfortable enough with the game to pay £250? if the BI was that small people wouldn't travel to play imo. I would play if it was in June or July. There is that issue. But are there enough people who'd travel to play a 2 day PLO event at that price? In short, yes. At the UKPC the Buy-In to the PLO was £500 (£250 proposed here), with a £25,000 Guarantee. It got 79 runners, for a £39,500 Prize Pool. You think it works outside of the festival though? I imagine the ukpc main was a far bigger draw. I don't know, in truth. You may be right. I suppose my point was that if the event is well-structured & promoted, the demand IS there. DTD ran PLO Tourneys before, a good few years back. Doubt they ever got more than 24 runners. But they were turbo affairs, one night jobbies, & I don't think that suits PLO, a game, imo, that is especially suited to well-balanced clocks & stacks. To me, (personally) PLO will never be a crash-bang wallop turbo game, it's like fine wine, or a good Lady, it deserves time, attention, & plenty of foreplay. I confess also that I am deeply in love with the 4 card variants, & want to see more of them, so I'm a bit biased really. Back in the day, PLO was always on the festival schedules, but they were destroyed by Unlimited Rebuys. It was not at all unusual to see folks going all-in blind every hand, & taking 10 or 15 Rebuys. That killed the game on the Live Tourney scene. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Gamblor21 on March 27, 2014, 10:59:54 AM I agree on the buyin front, I wouldn't travel if it was too low. Then again if it had a chunky guarantee and an online day 1 option I might take a punt.
I do think it would be a success though, in festivals of old you would have people travel specifically to play the Omaha event. DC players from around the country. They were/are like Tikay, love the game so want to play a good structured event where they can enjoy themselves. If DTD put a guarantee on the event I think it will hit the numbers. Main problem with Omaha events is that you can't guarantee the numbers so don't risk travelling and it is then a vicious circle causing the event to fail. If it has the guarantee there is less risk so you are willing to travel (as is everyone else) and the guarantee is met (more often than not). Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: robbiebox on March 29, 2014, 07:35:18 AM Agreed with g'tee in PLO would help make people's minds up, but in the first instance it might be worth lowering it to 30/35k. Also not a fan of re-entries in any tourneys as players gamble too much for my liking at the wrong time in a tourney and PLO would encourage this even more. So please keep it double chance with no or very limited re-entry.
I would play without a doubt if available. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: luther101 on March 29, 2014, 02:44:38 PM I'd play.
Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Woodsey on March 29, 2014, 02:46:22 PM I agree on the buyin front, I wouldn't travel if it was too low. Then again if it had a chunky guarantee and an online day 1 option I might take a punt. I do think it would be a success though, in festivals of old you would have people travel specifically to play the Omaha event. DC players from around the country. They were/are like Tikay, love the game so want to play a good structured event where they can enjoy themselves. If DTD put a guarantee on the event I think it will hit the numbers. Main problem with Omaha events is that you can't guarantee the numbers so don't risk travelling and it is then a vicious circle causing the event to fail. If it has the guarantee there is less risk so you are willing to travel (as is everyone else) and the guarantee is met (more often than not). These online day ones are brilliant, my preferred option when I get chance to play. Title: Re: Feedback please: PLO Tournaments at DTD? Post by: Nilawina on March 30, 2014, 09:52:46 PM Like the idea of a day 1 online. Unheard of for PLO
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