Title: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Oxford_HRV on May 13, 2014, 06:03:00 AM no hh's but i bust out from a little under the avg stack which was a tad over 20,000 in back to back hands which i suspect could've been played different
its a scoop event so all the levels with 20min clock structure 228 paid and there's over 400 left so no pay/bubble relevance i get moved to a new table with 16k @ 100/200 this table is 4 handed UTG Ks Kh 6h 7c Raise to 700 BTN raises pot from 5,500 stack it folds back and we get it in, fine? ......... THIN? Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: GreekStein on May 13, 2014, 06:15:01 AM 4 handed i think it's fine
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: SuuPRlim on May 13, 2014, 10:34:16 AM Meh idk. Always just seem to have AA when they pot 3bet PF in tournaments, have a gut that folding to the 5500 may be better.
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: GreekStein on May 13, 2014, 12:43:03 PM Meh idk. Always just seem to have AA when they pot 3bet PF in tournaments, have a gut that folding to the 5500 may be better. 4 handed he can have lots of AKxx AQQx AJ10Qds etc etc type hands and the blinds are moving through him pretty quick 4 handed so half decent kings with a suit i think is fine here Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: GreekStein on May 13, 2014, 12:43:40 PM Not fistpump loving it obv, but sigh sticking it in.
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Oxford_HRV on May 13, 2014, 04:40:19 PM i wasn't loving this for sure, the table was only 4 handed for a couple hands as tables balanced, but i'm considering short handed range dynamics still.
i had the similar thought with what villain coould have in my gut feeling as GreekStein. i was considering villain to be much wider than average, this table i have just appeared at is 4 handed with two above avg stacks and villain, so he coud've just lost chunks on the previous hand in some multi way madness and possibly be much wider than standard and tilted. to be clear i pot to 700 villain re pots 2400 off 5500 and we do a re raise to see all 5 cards. Meh idk. Always just seem to have AA when they pot 3bet PF in tournaments, have a gut that folding to the 5500 may be better. Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: mulhuzz on May 13, 2014, 06:05:21 PM I think this is probably very close, probably the worst KKxx I'd want to go with.
Think folding never a huge mistake tbh but don't hate an eyeball. depends how much you think he's reacting to the 4-handedness of the table as well i think... Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Oxford_HRV on May 13, 2014, 07:36:06 PM had to go on assumptions here, first hand on a new table.
I am not sure if i could fold to a 3b from anyone at the table, and i think that could be pretty bad. KK67 doesnt flop er... well. i can open fold 6 handed so maybe open limping/folding is closer than i first thought. villain had AKK4 no suit Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: wazz on May 14, 2014, 06:07:26 AM I might be in the minority here but I think our hand is good enough to call, assuming we're donking a balanced range of flops
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: tikay on May 14, 2014, 01:20:55 PM no hh's but i bust out from a little under the avg stack which was a tad over 20,000 in back to back hands which i suspect could've been played different its a scoop event so all the levels with 20min clock structure 228 paid and there's over 400 left so no pay/bubble relevance i get moved to a new table with 16k @ 100/200 this table is 4 handed UTG Ks Kh 6h 7c Raise to 700 BTN raises pot from 5,500 stack it folds back and we get it in, fine? ......... THIN? Its a reluctant fold from me, I think I want a better spot for 30% of my chips, given all other considerations. They are not exactly good Kings either. I know we are only 4-handed, but we've only just arrived at the table, so I want to watch tricks for an orbit or two first. Villain could easily be Tighty McTight or a complete nutcase, or anything in between. I'm a gonna wait awhile. Disclaimer - Am Chairman of the Royal Society of Nits. Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Honeybadger on May 14, 2014, 01:41:46 PM I might be in the minority here but I think our hand is good enough to call, assuming we're donking a balanced range of flops Was gonna post the same thing, without the donking a balanced range bit. Flatting feels better than 3betting to me. Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: pleno1 on May 14, 2014, 03:30:37 PM why are we open potting?
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Honeybadger on May 14, 2014, 03:49:28 PM Oh I misread the HH... thought hero had 3bet for some reason, not opened and then been 3bet lol...
Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: SuuPRlim on May 14, 2014, 06:45:00 PM when people full pot 3bet in these comps they just seem to show up with AA** all the time, which is my worry. Not sure calling a full pot raise is that great in a comp either...
Agree open to 500 imo, defo no need to pot open in a comp Title: Re: $215 PLO 6max four handed Post by: Oxford_HRV on May 14, 2014, 08:49:06 PM definitely decided open potting is bad here. (its not my standard open) as i said, i dont think i could fold to a 3b after i have opened and just in general open potting is not needed in MTT. its put me to a rough decision here for th strength of my hand.
I cant really donk bluff many missed flops either because villain will be getting a sick price to call. if i peeled pre i think i would probably c/f JQX n' high flops but be happy donking with a few low boards + sigh betting 89X It's really the pre flop pot which has done me here, i can open to 500 peel a pot 1800 and be able to let go or go with it feeling i've got around 35% are peeps r/f if they open to 500? or raise folding how i've played? i think its tough to do this in game short handed. |