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Title: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: verndog158 on May 18, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
No idea what to do here, happy in the end with a fold. Am HUDless at the moment due to my computer is a relic, but have played one pot with the same guy, where he over bet the river, no show downs as yet with him. Russian and fairly happy to label him as aggro.
Couple of skype discussions too, but would like to get a blonde opinion

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/9036882_FB25B19E53

PokerStars Hand #116350402732: Tournament #894306982, $24.55+$2.45 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (40/80) - 2014/05/18 16:41:46 WET [2014/05/18 11:41:46 ET]
Table '894306982 1088' 8-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: iamVerndog (7066 in chips)
Seat 2: I Am Benjami (9730 in chips)
Seat 3: igor.markin (16802 in chips)
Seat 4: konveds (10144 in chips)
Seat 5: rafalk100 (9390 in chips)
Seat 6: nikitosina (16658 in chips)
Seat 7: Acronaut (10360 in chips)
Seat 8: nice hand180 (9390 in chips)
nikitosina: posts small blind 40
Acronaut: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iamVerndog [Ah Qc]
nice hand180: folds
iamVerndog: raises 160 to 240
I Am Benjami: folds
igor.markin: folds
konveds: folds
rafalk100: calls 240
nikitosina: calls 200
Acronaut: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd As 9d]
nikitosina: checks
iamVerndog: bets 344
rafalk100: folds
nikitosina: raises 536 to 880
iamVerndog: calls 536
*** TURN *** [Kd As 9d] [4s]
nikitosina: checks
iamVerndog: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd As 9d 4s] [7c]
nikitosina: bets 15538 and is all-in
iamVerndog: folds
Uncalled bet (15538) returned to nikitosina
nikitosina collected 2560 from pot
nikitosina: doesn't show hand



Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: youthnkzR on May 18, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
First of all you need to be asking yourself why you bet / called the flop. If the reason is because you think your winning a ton due to the amount of semi bluffs in his range then we should be betting the turn for value from these, but also from weaker Ax...etc.

On the flop we need to be going much bigger when betting into 2 others on such a wet board which hits our opponents ranges pretty hard. Would personally go more towards 3/4 pot than our size (due to what has been said before). Turn is a must bet for reasons previously stated - cliffs charge his draws and make his worse Ax pay. If we get raised / if a scare card comes on the river then we can re-evaluate.

Doubt I fold river after checking back, its like he knows we have marginal showdown so don't really see him going this big for value in this event.


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: lucky_scrote on May 18, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
like everything tom says apart from calling river tbh


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: muckthenuts on May 19, 2014, 02:18:50 AM
What value hands can he ever really have though?


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: Flash92 on May 19, 2014, 06:18:03 PM
like everything tom says apart from calling river tbh

:) this.

Good post, Tom (I assume that is your name?).


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: willrobrobu on May 20, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
yeh fold river he has A7dd :p


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: pleno1 on May 20, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Think pre, especially on .fr is too loose.

What was your plan on. Different rivers when you get the turn?


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: MC on May 20, 2014, 06:39:49 PM
Think pre, especially on .fr is too loose.

What are you referring to here or have you looked at hand wrong?


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: verndog158 on May 20, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
Was checking the turn to call any usual bet he might make. However, and it probably shouldn't but this huge shove changes my mind/ made me think. Not a fan of betting the turn after he heck raise, think i want to get to showdown from there.


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: pleno1 on May 20, 2014, 08:12:27 PM
i thought it was tomsom and 64s :D


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: verndog158 on May 20, 2014, 08:16:57 PM
i thought it was tomsom and 64s :D

haha, i do have a tomsom avatar!! :D thoughts on this one pads?


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: richchiv12 on May 23, 2014, 08:05:30 AM
Chip bully, I would make the call if he's aggro as you said...


Title: Re: Gross spot in SCOOPL 8Max
Post by: lolwutwasthat on May 29, 2014, 05:51:06 AM
would just bet b/c'n off the turn or betting turn and checking back river.