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It seems someone has allowed ITV to cover some of the world cup matches. Just seen one of their trailers this morning. Very sad, very sad indeed.

Are you suggesting that Adrian Chiles won't provide top class coverage with Roy 'shocking performance' Keane and Lee 'how did I get this gig' Dixon?

Obv Chiles is too boring to even get a nickname...

Had this discussion on Facebook yesterday, and I had the worst three as  Owen, Townsend, and Chiles.

Defo the worst three

Tonight their pundits are woefully short of personality with Gerrard and Keane doing the honours  ;sleep;

I could go on for hours about it but they just do everything so utterly terribly. They simply should not be allowed to cover football.

I think they should just have players who didn't make the squad commentating:

Ashley Cole: " ffs Shaw, I would never have let him get past me there. I knew I should have shot you when I had the chance.."

Carrick: "Oh wp Henderson, yeah that's right just give the ball away then run around a bit"

Clive Tyldesley isn't a bad commentator tbf.

+1, and infinitely better than Jonathan Pearce.

I believe it was Tyldesley (obv I know it was him) that said "Solskjaer!" ...pause... "Manchester United have reached the promised land!"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27750996 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27750996)

Realistically not gonna be anyone else with sky/BT not allowed to get exclusive rights to any match.

I see the usual buffoonary from ITV during the tennis final yesterday.  They switched from ITV1 to ITV4 pretty much in the final game so they could show the build up to their celebrity football match Soccer Aid.  Surely we could have missed out on an utterly dull pre-match interview with John Bishop to see if the match finished in set 4!??

They simply should not be allowed to cover sport.

When they announced that I immediately switched to Eurosport.

ITV are definitely the worst at televising live sport.

oh lord.

Dear Adrian.

You have a World Cup Winner who the British public have almost certainly never seen being a pundit before and who could be really interesting.

And you've opened with 'what was it like to win the world cup'

Just fuck off and die, will you?

And tell Lee Dixon that Fabio Cannavaro cannot be someone you looked up to as a young lad given you're substantially older than him.

it's a fucking damning inditement when Patrick Viera and Fabio Cannavaro, who struggle with English at the best of times, are making more sense of the opening than Chiles and Dixon.

and heres Clive T

This is very bad worse than that infact

Just switched on and I think the long term plan is to watch just the matches and avoid the build up.

Rather watch Celebrity Master Chef than listen to this lot.

Taping the opener.  From ITV.  I need to know two things before I press play later:

1)  Is Andy Townsend there?
2)  Did he bring his little table?

no Andy yet, but you can rest assured he's coming. Tables abound with Strachan, Hoddle and Wright though. so you'll enjoy that.

I know it's daft, but that comment makes me a bit sad.

Ignore me. I'm old.

I agree Tom

But i dont think poster actually wishes Chiles death

youre right. silly thing to say. apologies

 :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skNc9RFBAek

NSFW (pretty bad language)

Should have found someone with Three Lions Woodsey, not a Carlsberg logo


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To be fair, the whole thread is tilting.  It is very much first world problems, it isn't even news, never mind the really bad variant. 

Surely you can just start watching at kick off, get a cup of tea, or crack open the beers at half time

Of course we can, but are we not allowed to have opinions on this? Or do we just have to keep them to ourselves?

The World Cup is a rather big sporting event and we don't get one every year so wouldn't it be good if the people who are paid to present it to us actually had some aptitude for that task?

Ultimately you can avoid being tilted by, in effect, taking your own advice.

Chiles gets a bad rap IMO. He's no dryer than Gary Linekar, who no one seems to mind. He has always played the role of an armchair fan and I like that. It's something different. The problem is ITV have surrounded him with monotonous and dry pundits, which, whilst fine on their own, can't work as a group. Dixon and Keane, I just don't get.

Am not looking forward to coming back to that. Currently have Steve Macmanaman, Roberto Martinez, Gilberto Silva, Ruud van Nistelrooy and others. Far from the worst bunch.

I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind Chiles.
Seems like a likable bloke who enjoys football enough to quit a perfectly decent job on Working Lunch, for which he's no doubt better qualified for, to be a sports anchor.

Maybe it's the accent that gets people back up, then they look for fault after that.

I agree to a certain extent - Chiles/Townsend don't bother me.  However, ITV's track record of sticking an advert on and missing a goal is a worry, because they can't stop some chimp pressing the wrong button at the wrong time.  I think I've experienced some kind of ITV disaster 3 times in the last decade.  A england match, a merseyside derby and a grand prix.  It's the basic lack of broadcasting competence that bugs me.

Great commentating by Tyldesley and Townsend for the Uruguay penalty. Amazed the ref gave it for handball when it clearly hit Lugano's hand. Took them ages to work out it might have been for the blatant rugby tackle on Lugano and even then only grudgingly admitted the ref got it right "by hook or by crook".

John Champion over here. Not sure who the analyst is tbh. The important thing is who it isn't.

Edit: Stewart Robson apparently

Anyone else pleasantly surprised at Cannavaro?

Good punditry.

Agree with Tighty re Ferdinand and Henry being a great pairing.

To be fair, I miss a lot of the build ups anyway, particularly the early games when the kids are around.  But even if I catch the punditry, I am like woohoo it is the World Cup, and any amount of bad punditry isn't going to make that bad news.  Now if it wa son BTSport or something like that it would get closer. 

And for David3103, it isn't the opinions that tilt, it is mainly the thread title.  First couple of times I opened it I was expecting to hear of some dreadful death(s) somewhere.       

Come back ITV, all is forgiven.

Mary Berry/Bake-Off thing. Urgh.

Can't believe such irrelevant shit bothers people so much tbh, its just a bit of chit chat before the main event innit?  :dontask:

Yeah hyperbole should be banned. Scourge of the world. People indulging in it should be jailed.

Really impressed with Henry

Phil Nevillie less so. Who gave him the gig? Awful

Disagree a lot with Neville comment, thought his analysis was spot on about everything.

He is rather monotone, but the content was great IMO.

phil neville desperately needed media training to help with his intonation and inflections, felt for him

as it was he sounded as if he was broadcasting on a call of duty microphone on a team deathmatch on a xbox, so muffled and monotone he was

who gave him the most important co-commentator gig for four years? backfired badly

His content was poor. Nothing insightful. Just dull.

Has Phil Neville co-commentated before?

Still, he was better than Townsend. Could always switch to the radio commentary, but then you get Alan Green on BBC or Stan Collymore on the van driver's station.

If only there were an option somewhere to just have the noise of the crowd.

You could on the red button, but then it wasn't  in HD.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-27858505

Not as misleading as the big massive boobies thread.

So much character in this photo. The hole in the glass from a protester throwing rocks at ITV (over Cannavaro's left shoulder) while Chiles has his cuppa.

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I watched it yesterday and the commentator managed to make it sound like Patrick Viera was dead, when in fact he just wasn't in the studio.

That hole has been there for ages, I can't believe they didn't get it fixed or do something so it wasn't in shot for the whole of the WC. 

After a few weeks, I must say I am enjoying the ITV studio/pundits far more than the BBC.  The BBC guys give the impression of just being there for the jolly at taxpayer expense, and put minimal effort into any reasearch of the game they are going to watch.  Shearer is grating me in particular.  The whole BBC output just feels very smug.

Conversely I've enjoyed O'Niell, Hoddle and Strachan.

I thin this is the first time I have ever preferred ITV for a sporting event.

Saw this the other day about the difference between ITV and BBC

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/23/world-cup-itv-bbc-tv-studios (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/23/world-cup-itv-bbc-tv-studios)

To be honest, am still just enjoying the games though, great World Cup so far, though winning a few quid would be nice too.

I retract all previous criticism of all co-commentators on the solid basis that in comparison with Danny Murphy they are all outstanding.

Disagree- Murphy is really good imo

like Danny Murphy

miles in front of lawrenson, savage etc

explains tactics well, understated enthusiasm too

lawrenson sounds like he would rather be anywhere else in the world than at the world cup!

Made so many mistakes about stuff he'd seen. When Gamboa went down he confidently told us it was an ankle injury and even the clear sight of him holding his knee didn't shake his conviction.
When Schneider hit the post he told us that Navas hadn't moved.
So many others it would be tedious to list them.

To be fair, Mowbray wasn't much better.

He lacks experience

all the bbc colour commentators do as they have no live football at home so they are all lacking in practice to hone their craft

murphy though is self-deprecating, amusing and what he lacks in gravitas he makes up for in likeability

in my opinion

none of the main bbc guys are a patch on gnev as colour comms, tyler on main comms etc etc

the best bbc guys are the ones who came from radio 5, steve wilson, brotherton etc. natural with words, and don't overcook it as say pearce does

I think Mowbray is really good, Murphy is decent.

Thought Murphy tonight was the worst commentator I've ever listened to. Got almost everything wrong and had no enthusiasm in his voice at all combined with v bad puns/jokes. Not sure how a player like that is getting into the media now.

Whats with Martin O'Neill, its like he is trying really hard to prove that he knows more than the other pundits.