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i started hand 3/14, vilain was 2/14. 12 pay.

Full Tilt Poker Game #34272379074: Turbo Hundo (267428025), Table 9 - NL Hold'em - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - 00:53:38 CET - 2014/05/29 [18:53:38 ET - 2014/05/28]
Seat 1: bean555 (24,600)
Seat 2: steve331 (15,318)
Seat 3: Sick_Ko (27,009)
Seat 4: BlackFours (78,239)
Seat 5: PATER266 (33,196)
Seat 6: pads1161 (59,483)
Seat 9: JEAN-BOLL-JAN (32,377)
bean555 antes 300
steve331 antes 300
Sick_Ko antes 300
BlackFours antes 300
PATER266 antes 300
pads1161 antes 300
JEAN-BOLL-JAN antes 300
bean555 posts the small blind of 1,200
steve331 posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [5c Kh]
Sick_Ko folds
BlackFours raises to 4,800
PATER266 folds
pads1161 raises to 10,800
JEAN-BOLL-JAN folds
bean555 has 15 seconds left to act
bean555 folds
steve331 folds
BlackFours has 15 seconds left to act
BlackFours has requested TIME
BlackFours calls 6,000
*** FLOP *** [2c 9d Kc] (Total Pot: 27,300, 2 Players)
BlackFours has 15 seconds left to act
BlackFours checks
pads1161 checks
*** TURN *** [2c 9d Kc] [3h] (Total Pot: 27,300, 2 Players)
BlackFours has 15 seconds left to act
BlackFours bets 9,282
pads1161 calls 9,282
*** RIVER *** [2c 9d Kc 3h]

(Total Pot: 45,864, 2 Players) BlackFours has 15 seconds left to act BlackFours has requested TIME BlackFours checks pads1161 ?? (39k effective, basically pot sized bet)

What was the river?

hm not sure why it doesnt show.

off suit 10

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I'd be betting small or jamming here. Hard to see how we dont have the best hand

14,444

Surely you've checked the flop to get two streets of value, so you should bet. Obviously, I check and then moan at myself for being a wimp when the villain shows A9.

Depends how likely I think opp is likely to just eyeball if we bet.  My experience of turbo's is that people tend to play a little bit more ABC than in reg speeds (usually because of shorter stacks obvs) so I'm fairly happy betting something like 9300.

Is he a smart player? To him it looks like you've got top pair or a hand like QQ/JJ or other showdown type and it looks like he's just given up. He's probably expecting you to check back tbh but either way he's given up on it.

You could prob bet like 2bb's. When he folds you don't have to showdown too but you'll also have to call a CR jam I guess because it is inducing and we totally expect him to lead his good hands as like I said above he's expecting you to check back here with your showdown value.

Snap betting 31k on the river (as in v quickly after he checks). Makes us look like we're leaving chips back f he calls and is good so we ladder into the money. Small bets never going to get called, don't think he's ever gonna get induced to do something stupid..etc. we get th max from betting this much.

Maybe I'm a pussy but this is a snap check with a massive sigh of relief that he didn't bet again.

Also probably best not to 3 bet K5o near the bubble vs the only guy who can knock you out. Why not pressurise the smaller stacks instead?

Actually, pads do you take the same line here with AQ? AJ you prob peel but I don't know what the dynamic is.

When he checks we should value bet as we've played our hand 'weak' postflop, yet have still managed to call a bet - so therefore expect him to bet river when he has us beat all of the time. He can take draws (clubs mostly) out of our range straight away as we know if he had a made hand he would check call rather than check raise, even though the board is slightly 'wet' due to the shallow SPR, and therefore he would expect us to barrel our club draws close to 100% (as we aren't worried about getting c/r'd) - so has no reason to check river to us expecting us to barrel missed draws as we don't really have any. Also by check calling his made hands he allows us to barrel. However once we choose not to barrel flop this should indicate to him we have a decent amount of showdown value, especially after we call turn, and therefore anything he has which is beating us will bet the river 100% of the time, as unless he expects us to turn A highs / JJ / QQ into bluffs, in his eyes, we are going to check the river back close to always. Also by him checking it leads me to think he has showdown himself - most likely rivered a 10 - and therefore will likely call as he expected us to check back and all of a sudden we start betting, it polarizes our hand in his eyes to turn floats / hands turned into bluffs (which we do with A high so so much more then we do with hands e.g. QQ / JJ - to be honest I would also be betting these for value myself) / nutted hands e.g. sets (if we bet on the larger side especially).

you could probs bet 2bb's. But what would you do here? :P

i checked, he had A9