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http://www.pokerstars.tv/live/#video=en&section=tab-canadacup

from 9:10 in

its been going on for ever...and then.

James and Joe try, and partially succeed, not to get too excited lol

(not sure why 8-8 wouldn't ladder?!)

You got the right link says video not available

WTF!!!!

what is 8-8 thinking?

if the big stack calls he can ladder two places ( around C$80,000 ?) in an event with $266,000 overlay

been troubling me

I would suggest we may not be dealing with a mastermind and that not a lot of thinking went on during that hand.  Having said that, the guy with AT played it far worse, his jam there is an absolute crime.

Their flip-top heads means they can't think straight.

Casino Royale minus the cooler

Just shows, that pressure does strange things to our minds.

I doubt any of them are idiots, it was just brain-fart over brain-fart.

Mock not, most of us have done dumber things.

Certainly the only time I recall seeing a 4 way all-in (deal situations excepted) to end a Tourney.

The poor lad with the Eights, his head was completely frazzled, he did not know what day it was.

Nor here

"DID ANYBODY FOLD AN ACE?!" haha classic... that made me chuckle

Before the start of the hand:
Notkin 40BB
Jacques 36BB
Rivers 6BB
Miller 4BB

Perhaps he was thinking that it is unlikely that Notkin would call, after all an initial raise from the big stack four handed doesn't really mean that he has to have KK.

If Notkin doesn't call, then Miller (the guy wth the 4BB stack) will pretty much triple up if he wins the hand (if Rivers with 88 doesn't call) and Jacques (the guy in 2nd place) is barely dented. Mr. Rivers (with 5BB left against Miller's 11BB) must be pretty short odds to finish 4th in this scenario.

If Rivers calls and Jacques (or Notkin if he makes the call) wins the hand then Rivers still comes third as he had a bigger stack than Miller going into the hand.

If Rivers wins the hand (which he might have OK equity for if they both have big aces) then obviously everything is rosy.

Is it really so bad a decision after playing for ages?


Having said all that, I fold.

But there's no need to shove here.  Notkin, who is an 'older' amateur player who satellited in.  At the point where Miller effectively 3b shoves (for 4bb), I don't really see the need to do anything other than flat.  Notkin is going to make it fairly obvious if he has a hand that beats us when it folds back round to him.  It's not like some random 'older' satty winner is just going to randomly take off here with something worse than ATo.  All the times when he doesn't have a premium hand he's just going to flat and were going to check it down.

I agree, that may well be true for Jacques' bet but it doesn't affect the call by Rivers (apart from making it a better call because Notkin is less likely to call).

I don't play much poker - does it show? :)

best thing ever about this is the graphic for Notkin.

His happy older face next to the 'KK' picture just made me crease up when I watched this unfold.

It makes sense, I'd not really thought to analyse this 88 call but since the thread got this far I thought I'd have a look.  So:

I've said Notkin raises:  22+,A2+,K2s+,K9o+,Q5s+,Q9o+,J6s+,J9o+,T6s+,T9o,96s+,98o,85s+,75s+,65s,54s

The button (4bb) I assume hasn't got there by being loose, so give him:  22+,A2s+,A7o+,KTs+,KJo+,QTs+,JTs

The sb (36bb) I don't really know what to give but I've said that AT is the worse he jams to give a ranage of:  99+,AT+

I then give Notkin an overcalling range of a very tight:  JJ+,AK

I know there's a lot of assumptions on ranges and they can all be tweaked etc but I don't think this can be a million miles away taking all things into account.  I have also set the payouts to the correct amounts based on the structure.

Apparently the 8bb stack should overcall here with: (3.8%) TT+,AQs+,AKo and 99 is almost exactly break even.  If you suggest that Notkin can overcall with AQs then it actually becomes slightly profitable.

As played though 88 loses $1260 of equity, and TT would net +$2266.  So it's much closer than I actually thought.  Still 100% snap foldings though.

I hadn't realised, but Kings limped UTG 4 handed

James Hartigan ‏@J_Hartigan 8m

@Kevmath @webjoker It was indeed a limp UTG. A perfectly executed (and incredibly rare) QUADRUPLE Gibbons!

tomsom bro. step away from the equity simulator.


dis be live brah.


fiddy fiddy

UWOT?  I thought live poker was a myth?  Like actually having a life outside of ICMIZER....

Hahahaha defo watching South Park tonight

love how in the south park game, the graphics revert to really really bad and old when you visit canada  rofl

Wonder if the old fella had done the math and realised he was a 48% dog to win the hand when he slammed his Kings down?

Wow nice way to finish it, he looked so happy aswell! A10o is a pretty bad shove there imo.

Would of been horrendous for an Ace ball river

Genius

Classic.