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Should I be getting away here, or is this a cooler?

50p or getting away please??

I would fold to the jam, not much we beat, I wouldn't expect a set to take this line to often early on.

Is it bad to fold pre here in level 2?

Bare Ah is possible with the sizing?  Can't say I'd definitely have folded or definitely wouldn't have gone nuts with a set.  Stats going to be important here.  Some players aren't ever doing that with a set or bare ace,  others wouldn't think of just calling if they had those. 

I just went into kitchen to cook pre grind and Ah more likely than set sprung to mind :)

I mean if we know villain's been having fun I would expect OP to mention it, as std I would fold.

As for pre, I'd be surprised if Pads doesn't peel here.

WWBITBD

In b4 he says otherwise though.

So assuming pre is okay, are we flatting flop lead or raise/folding?

I'm not folding, happy raise calling as played. Obvs gonna be a little player dependent etc, but I'm guessing if this is an unusually high buy in for you and its level 2 we're probably readless. If we're not happy getting it in here, surely that's a great case for folding pre.

Scope him. If he's a complete unknown or a big loser then I'm getting it in. Will definitely fold if it's someone who has played a fair amount of tournaments though (and wasn't huge loser).

Pre feels ok vs a min. If the opener was good I'd be inclined to fold, especially with tight/good blinds.

Flop feels like an easy call. Dont do great vs either ones get it in range. If the bb raised after I called then if the guy between folds too I guess I'd shove. Got to see what happens. When the money goes in on the flop like this we are never really in good shape imo. I never see sets here.

Save any shots for a Sunday 215 or play the night on stars or something on ftp imo. Big 162 isn't the greatest value.

Any love for 3b or fold pre?

Didn't see the donk here but its all the same really. The only way we get it in in front is if our opponents are bad. And I don't think we can make an assumption like this just yet.

Is this not a really good case for folding pre? I mean, we've flopped nearly as good as it's possible to with this hand, and now you're saying we only ever get it in ahead against someone bad?

I'd argue its a pretty bad flop where we get coolered a lot and never really stack any bros. Our hand is very visible on this flop.

i prob fold pre, im a nit though, do occassionally 3bet, rarely peel.

I like 3betting pre and flatting the flop. We don't have much of a bluff-range on this board and sets are fairly unlikely to bet/3b all-in

Agree. Tend to play value hands mainly early on. Pretty splashy imo.
Can find a fold after he 3-bets after donking the flop. Harrington-bot here though.

I would peel a lot, 3bet fairly often and not fold too much.

This is one of the leaks I'm trying to plug in my game. I used to peel a lot in these situations but will mostly fold pre now in similar situations. Not sure it's the correct play in the long term but I find myself in pasty post flop situations and either stacking off or folding - neither add chips to my stack :o(

i'm peeling pre here 95% of the time. i'm only folding if something on the telly distracts me or my computer spontaneously breaks. 3b rarely, more likely to 3b if the OR was opening a lot or later position. postflop i'd prob go bust too tbh, but would feel ok about it as you get it in vs someone with Ah or set so often it makes up for the times u see the better flush

what people honestly suggesting folding the flop?

1,000,000 - 1 people ever actually fold this.

I'd fold. I think we are beat virtually every time. Bad price for a two outter.

for a fact you will see as bad as AT no hearts here sometimes, even in a $162. will definitely see sets and worse flushes and a nut flush draw enough to make this profitable.

When I'm multi tabling and putting less effort into the smaller stuff, I would get it in without even thinking about it and chalk it up to a cooler if I'm losing. Willrobrobu is right, people are happy to knock it in with some pretty poor holdings. Given this is the big 162 which still has good value, I would sharkscope the guy before doing anything on the flop.

If he's any kind of big volume player or winner I'm just gonna peel the flop. Keep calling down the streets and if they check, then bet yourself. You're getting little action from worse hands this deep vs anyone decent.

What worse flushes? I very rarely see people lead/get in sets for over 100 bigs. I mean its pretty player dependent but to say people never fold this is very wrong. Worse flushes consist of 56hh? 64hh? 54hh? 2nd level I don't think anyone but the top tier fish get it in with AT no heart, maybe JJ or something. Fish like to call and make good hands/see what you have, not lump it in dead. When we need the guy to be making a horrific mistake to put it in, folding really cannot be bad.

I'd have peeled the flop donk so I don't have to fold just yet tho.

Thank you for all the replies.

Mixed opinions about the pre-flop call and I can see why. Although that we are deep and out hand can flop some strong hands and draws, I'm not sure now about how much I am really going to make here in the long run.

On the flop I definitely think a call is in order, I guess I raised to get value against pairs, two pairs, sets and draws, and although I will often get value I do open myself up to being up against a better flush or monster draws/sets.

If I decide to raise I think I should be getting away once a ton goes in here against an unknown in my highest buy in tournament.

Ash.

Hold 'em is dead, you're all nits ;)

yup. and it takes 6x the time to make a flush as well.

anyone 3b/c flop in 6max?